Chris Detzel (00:00.286)
Alright, welcome to another DFW running talk, our first one back for over a little over a month, and I'm really excited about today's special guest, Miranda Heivel. Did I say it right, Miranda? Your last name?
Miranda Hyvl (00:12.302)
It's actually Keyboard, yeah, but everybody says, so that's fine. Yes.
Chris Detzel (00:16.842)
Miranda Heaval. How about that? Maybe I can maybe I can edit it, you know, and make it sound right. Who knows? But anyways, Miranda, thank you so much for coming on. Really appreciate re I really appreciate it.
Miranda Hyvl (00:18.743)
Yes, yes.
Miranda Hyvl (00:29.09)
Yeah, thank you for having me.
Chris Detzel (00:30.878)
All right, so you live in Rockwell, and that's gonna be important here in a minute, as we get deeper. But you're in Rockwell, Texas, and and and you and I kinda met at I think it was I don't know if it was Boston Marathon a few years ago, two or three years ago. Leah was running my wife and and and so you came up and she introduced us and anyways, like and and then I realized that you run a club called The Runhouse. I actually I think it's a store.
And then you have running clouds and is that what it is? Yeah.
Miranda Hyvl (01:00.683)
Yes. Yes, yes. It's a club slash we have a recovery lounge store, you know, all it's basically a place for runners to meet and we do a lot of runs out of there.
Chris Detzel (01:12.096)
Yeah, and y you have a Facebook group and all that kind of stuff. So that's we'll get we'll get to that in a minute, but I wanna l know a little bit more about you and and how you got into running, when you got into running and all of that kind of stuff.
Miranda Hyvl (01:24.556)
Okay, sure. Yeah. I mean, I ran track in high school, you know, like a lot of people do. had some, you know, mild achievements in that, but nothing spectacular. I enjoyed it. I never really did distance running though in high school. I remember doing cross country for a little bit and thinking the two mile distance was just absolutely crazy. But you know, things change and I started having children, you know, after college and just, you know, kind of dabbled in physical fitness, but
Never really ran, but I had some friends from high school sign up for a half marathon, kind of caught the bug watching them, ended up signing up for like a couch to 5k program. this was about 14 years ago. Just really started small and just trying to, you know, get in shape. had some, you know, minor health issues with my birth and my last child. And so anyway, just kind of got to it and just really started enjoying it. I loved the
specifics of the measurements and the you know checking something off for me each day. And ended up signing up for my first half and then you know got a coach from there. And so that just kinda led to a a lot more. So
Chris Detzel (02:38.39)
Let's back up a little bit 'cause you said a lot of things and I want to dive in a little bit deeper into your first half marathon. So you said you ran a five K or two and then you know, what got you interested in the half?
Miranda Hyvl (02:50.036)
Yeah, I did a 5K out of White Rock when they used to do those do Athlons. I don't think they do those anymore, but they had a 5K associated with it and did that and had a great time. And then that was the logical next step, I think, to do the half. So I yeah, I did my first half was B was BCS marathon. So they're half marathon at the time. So I had a good.
Chris Detzel (03:12.502)
Well did you how would you tr how was your training? Like what did you think? Did you think of anything, or did you just, hey, I'm gonna go run a half marathon? That's how a lot of people do it.
Miranda Hyvl (03:21.861)
And no, actually I hired a coach. I hired Barrett Hopper who used to run the Rockwell Running Club. I had some mutual friends that were running with the Rockwell Running Club. And so I hired him and yeah, I'm very analytical, so it helped me to have kind of have a plan, have someone watching the plan and checking in with, but that was the year that Dallas got the ice storm, so 2013. I think it was 2013.
And so we weren't sure that we could even make it down there for the half to BCS, but we did. So yeah.
Chris Detzel (03:54.935)
Yeah, think I was supposed to r supposed to run the I think that was twenty fourteen maybe. Maybe it was thirteen, I don't remember, but but I was supposed to run the marathon and they cancelled it. for Dallas. Yeah.
Miranda Hyvl (04:00.923)
Yeah. Yeah.
Miranda Hyvl (04:05.808)
Yes. Yes. And they left BCS open. A lot of people went from Dallas down to BCS I think that year to try to, you know, still use their race. And so it w it was a lot of fun. And yeah, quickly got the bug after that and did a did a full within a year after that. So
Chris Detzel (04:23.018)
That's pretty cool. How'd you do on your first half?
Miranda Hyvl (04:26.266)
My first time I did good. I hit my goal that I had and yeah, I had a great time. My husband's an Aggie, so going through the A and campus and all of that was a lot of fun. We had some land down there and his mom lived there at the time. So it was kind of nice to be, you know, in that community as well.
Chris Detzel (04:42.198)
That's pretty awesome. And how did you get involved in the Rockwell running club?
Miranda Hyvl (04:46.95)
my sister actually had a friend that was running with the Rockwall Running Club and she worked at the store. They had a store at the time too, and so she introduced me to Barry Potter.
Chris Detzel (04:56.564)
Okay. And then you just started kinda running with those guys and he just started coaching you?
Miranda Hyvl (05:00.647)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. And I didn't I had small kids at the time, so I couldn't get out a lot of early mornings. I'd have to kind of trade off with my husband. And so I usually met them for long runs and some speed work at the time they'd meet up at the track here locally. And so I would do what I could to to participate and then it kind of grew into a little bit more as my kids got a little older and I had more time.
Chris Detzel (05:22.006)
And how many do you have?
Miranda Hyvl (05:24.834)
well we're a blended family, so we have five kids, and so at the time,
Chris Detzel (05:29.456)
I saw your Facebook by the way and I was like, wow, she has a lot of kids.
Miranda Hyvl (05:33.03)
We do. So my husband had two kids when we met and they were in middle school and we got married and then I had two kids that were smaller. They were four and six when we got married. And then we have we have one together who's now fourteen. And so, yeah, we we're very busy and they all have their own sports and run and things like that too. So
Chris Detzel (05:36.361)
Okay.
Chris Detzel (05:54.007)
Well that's cool. I have a fifteen year old and he's big into band, so he he's just finished his freshman year and he's obsessed. Like it's insane how these kids are just and I love it. I'm glad he is obsessed, but you know, yeah, super busy. So
Miranda Hyvl (06:10.061)
Yes. Very much so. Yeah. And my husband had always worked out in the early morning hours. And so when I started running, we had to do a lot of trading 'cause he's also a runner and a athlete too. So it was an interesting dynamic at first getting started with this and but yeah, things look a little different today, fourteen years later.
Chris Detzel (06:28.074)
Yeah. I mean, look, they're they're older and you don't really have to watch them all the time and kind of wonder where they're at and all that kind of stuff. So any tips around kind of co parenting in that way? You know, like you know, for if you're both runners and how you kind of manage your time and I'm I've had a lot of people on here that, you know, has you know, they're married and that their spouse has to help, you know, do that. Any kind of tips for that since you said you've been through it?
Miranda Hyvl (06:35.311)
Yeah.
Miranda Hyvl (06:56.908)
Yeah, it was really important for us for to have a schedule, you know, and it was just kind of we would look at the week and say, you know, okay, like I mentioned, I would just say, you know, my easy runs I can do on my own. I can go to the gym and use the child care at the gym and do it on a treadmill. I didn't have to have every run outside and look perfectly. You know, my husband worked full time. I was a stay-at-home mom. it made sense for that. But, you know, the runs where I felt like I needed people to, you know, help encourage me and push me and motivate me, like the speed work and the long runs. we would make, you know.
a a plan what days would work best with his schedule for me to do those that week and we would kind of work it around that. And so I think that saved a lot of you know, striving communication if we talked about it ahead of time and just kinda had a plan and that's what it was. You get Tuesday, Thursday, I have Monday, Wednesday, Friday, you know. And he's always been very supportive of my goals. So I appreciate that as well.
Chris Detzel (07:48.673)
you have to be for to to make something like that work, right? I mean, you see there's a lot of kids and there's a lot of, you know, balls bouncing there, you know, and you get a juggle all over those. And and so I think it's great that you can both be supportive of each other's kind of goals and things, you know.
Miranda Hyvl (07:52.855)
Absolutely.
Miranda Hyvl (08:02.839)
Yes. Yeah, we would run together some in our neighborhood and so we would have like the older kids watch the younger kids, you know, we would leave a note that we were running and they knew to watch the baby and all of that. So we've we've done a lot of juggling as well to try to make it work.
Chris Detzel (08:18.39)
Yeah, that's awesome. So all right, so you're thank you for that because I know there's a lot of partners out there or spouses, married folks that that you know need all the help they can get, you know. So
Miranda Hyvl (08:30.656)
Absolutely. Yeah. But I think it makes you a better parent and a better spouse too, if you can get those, you know, moments into yourself and you know, have goals for yourself as well. I know for me, I feel like that's a big part of who I am as a mom, you know, and so it helps me a lot and and I'm glad that my husband recognizes that too.
Chris Detzel (08:49.302)
Yeah, and I love that you said that. So all right. So you ran this half marathon, you got the bug, and you decided the next year to run a marathon. What was that like?
Miranda Hyvl (08:58.605)
Okay. So my first marathon was the Rock and Roll New Orleans. and yeah, we took a big group from Rock Roll Running Club. It was there was probably thirty, forty of us that went. And some people did yeah, some people did the half and some people did the full. And I went with a friend, the same friend that Tiffany Howerwell, she had introduced me to Barrett Hopper and she worked at the store and we we went together and
Chris Detzel (09:02.112)
Okay.
Miranda Hyvl (09:23.509)
You know, I did my first full and it you know, it was my a first full. It didn't always go as planned. So, but looking back, it was a better learning experience than I thought at the time. I was disappointed with my overall result because I had a goal and I was just shy of that goal and you know it was pretty devastating at first. But I think as I've grown and matured in my running, I look back and would love to tell that person, you know, that first time marathoner.
To be proud of just finishing, you know, and to not be so hard on myself.
Chris Detzel (09:54.496)
I think that's great advice. Anything that so so, you know, first time marathonners or people that are first time going into running a marathon, what are some of the tips and tricks that you would you would mention? I mean, I know you mentioned don't be hard on yourself, which I a hundred percent agree because sometimes we have these audacious goals that it's maybe unattainable, or at least just know that this is your first marathon. You know, it's okay. So
Miranda Hyvl (10:19.039)
Yes. Yeah. Usually the people that I coach that want a time goal for their first marathon, I try to discourage that because it's gonna be a PR no matter what, you know, and you just don't know what to expect. And you there's so many things that you can't control with the weather and you know, just the other crowds and just getting used to the distance because most of us don't run twenty-six miles in training. You know, it's the first time to achieve that distance and so
Really just limiting expectations, you know, and really practicing the fueling and all of that beforehand. But even that stuff can go wrong. You can drop a gel, you can, you know, have somebody in front of you have something go wrong with them. you know, there's just so many variables in a full marathon. And so just kind of going in with limited expectations I think is huge.
Chris Detzel (11:00.287)
Yeah, I think that, you know, I th I think you're saying, you know, make sure you do hydrate, make sure you do take s nutrition, but at the same time, things happen y and you never really know in your first time. You know, the things I tell people is just train, you know, and if you train as best you can for it, you know, trust that. And I think that, you know, i if th there will be things that go wrong probably in the first and second marathon even. you know, I mean, but how many marathons have you run?
Miranda Hyvl (11:25.936)
Mm-hmm.
Chris Detzel (11:30.569)
You know Wow. You're kind of a problem, though.
Miranda Hyvl (11:30.962)
23. Yeah, 23. Yeah. I don't want to feel that way, but yeah. I and I definitely think, you know, running with a group helps because I pick up so much from other people and other runners when we're running, just you know, talking about what gel they use, what salt tabs they're using, you know, what shoes out, you know, most recently, any kind of recovery tools that they're doing, or you know, just a ton of different just wealth knowledge from all the individual runners. And I think that's a huge thing too. And I always encourage, you know, people that I work with to get with a group.
Chris Detzel (12:00.917)
Do you do you have a specific training like plan that you like to use? And if so, tell me about
Miranda Hyvl (12:07.098)
Yes. Uhhuh. As far as when I'm coaching or when I'm personally training.
Chris Detzel (12:12.895)
Well let's let's get into coaching for a minute 'cause I didn't know that you were a coach. I I mean makes sense. So let's talk about when you personally train.
Miranda Hyvl (12:22.779)
Yeah, you know, I've done it all sorts of different ways. I've had personal coaches. after Barrett Copper coached me and he moved away, I had another coach, just an individual that used to run with us that was very analytical and you know, he would look at my paces and my workouts and give me feedback. And I've had a couple of other female coaches as well. but now I typically I run with McMillan right now and I'm also getting certified with McMillan to train with them. But
I use their plans, I have for the last few years and so I really enjoy that.
Chris Detzel (12:55.423)
So what's your favorite marathon that you were in? Or you know, maybe you have a few, but I I'm curious to to know more about that.
Miranda Hyvl (13:04.762)
Yeah, I you know, I guess that's that's an interesting question because you know, I still always go back to BCS. I just I I love that race that I've ended up that was my first VQ at at BCS and so I've gone back there for the full several times. I personally like smaller races. I've kind of gotten into dabbling in the majors and things like that, which I've loved, all of those experiences. But
I think, you know, if I had to say like my favorite race, you know, the one that I enjoyed the most in my PR, I guess that's probably, you know, important too, would probably still be some C S. That's been been my favorite.
Chris Detzel (13:40.445)
What's your PR?
Miranda Hyvl (13:42.616)
three twenty six.
Chris Detzel (13:44.285)
Pretty impressive. Are you still trying to hit under that?
Miranda Hyvl (13:47.846)
yeah, you know, that was a few years ago. I I guess, you know, there's always hope to still keep going for that. I don't know, we'll see. You know. I'm still still working at it.
Chris Detzel (13:58.167)
Well, I mean, you're still working it. That's awesome. and you've been to Boston how many times?
Miranda Hyvl (14:03.83)
Seven times. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm the goal the yeah, the goal there is to try to get to the ten. You know, a lot of people have that goal, I think, once they've had multiple opportunities to run. And so I'm hopeful that that will be the case and eventually I can end up get doing that.
Chris Detzel (14:08.95)
What do you think about foreign?
Chris Detzel (14:22.678)
I mean, I think that's extremely doable. So I mean, did you I assume you qualified again?
Miranda Hyvl (14:28.396)
Yeah, in Boston. I did this last year. We had great weather, so recall that there, so that should be good. Hopefully. You know, we never know with the cutoff, but hopefully that'll be good.
Chris Detzel (14:33.012)
Yeah. It was awesome.
Chris Detzel (14:38.112)
What's your what's the time that you have to hit?
Miranda Hyvl (14:41.843)
I need a three forty five now. I'm a I'm forty eight, so mm hmm.
Chris Detzel (14:44.982)
Yeah. Forty eight. And so really you need like a three forty, probably.
Miranda Hyvl (14:49.837)
Yeah, probably, yeah.
Chris Detzel (14:51.06)
Yeah. Okay. and you know, so so BCS is your favorite and how did you get into coaching?
Miranda Hyvl (14:59.991)
To coaching because I had some friends that were starting to probably six or seven years ago, and they were asking me to write plans for them. And so I did, you know, I would kind of look stuff up on the internet and then modify it based on you know their age and fitness level and lifestyle and things like that. And so I was kind of just doing it on the side, and then it felt a little uncomfortable doing it without a certification. And so I wanted to try to, you know, I was still working at the time too, and so this was just a side thing I was doing.
And I signed up to go to Houston for the RRCA training and then COVID hit and so I ended up having to do it virtually. So I got certified in 2020, April of 2020, did it online and then yeah, then started kind of picking it up from there. started coaching just people like, you know, from my neighborhood that wanted to run a half and that got recommended over to me or people that wanted to run a 5K and then it kind of grew into a little bit more, you know, and I've
started, you know, really helping people, you know, run marathons and then have, you know, some bigger goals. And so, I really enjoy that aspect of it. And we do coach out of the runhouse too. And so that's been another avenue for me to be able to utilize that service as well.
Chris Detzel (16:10.846)
know that so it's funny because I've interviewed a lot of coaches and and I have this page that is called DFW Running Group and there's a coaching section and so I push in kind of their services and in this video or you know the the podcast. And so I'll make sure to to add you to that. I didn't know that. So I'll put the links in I just I had no idea like I I knew you did the run house. So
Miranda Hyvl (16:31.479)
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Chris Detzel (16:37.738)
I digress. I'm I'm just very interested that that we have another woman coach that I can add. So the the coaching stuff, like what is your philosophy and you know, how do you kind of you know look at it? I mean, I'm sure you have different levels of people that you coach and and that kind of stuff. T can you tell me about that?
Miranda Hyvl (16:39.991)
Yeah.
Thank you.
Miranda Hyvl (16:58.9)
Yeah, you know, for me, what I kind of pride myself in is just like the customization and individual individual coaching. I use an app called Final Search, which a lot of us are familiar with, and I put the plans in weekly. Don't just throw you out, you know, here's your 16 week training plan. You know, I prefer not to do that. I prefer to look at the progress each week.
know if there were missed runs, if they're have some kind of stressor in their life where they, you know, did get a lot of sleep that week, or, you know, there's just so many factors. And I think, you know, in this day and age where you can find anything on Chat GPT or Google, you know, people try to get these plans, but it doesn't factor in age or fitness level or, you know, history of injury or any kind of thing like that. Or just, you know, getting to know that runner, I've learned so much about each individual and like what motivates them because
you know, some people just need that encouragement and some people just kinda want to be left alone and they just want me to kind of analyze and give feedback at the end of the week and that's cool too. But kind of figuring out what each person wants and needs and customizing it to that because and I get such joy from coaching. That has been, you know, such a bright spot in my life seeing people achieve their goals and trying to help them do so. Especially, you know, even just like the local mom who, you know
was out of shape and wants to run a 5K and you know then her kids start running because she's running too. It's just it's a real you know choice process. I like it a lot.
Chris Detzel (18:22.038)
How many people do you coach now?
Miranda Hyvl (18:24.476)
right now I have about ten. It's off season though because of summer and so that you know, when Dallas starts up, you know, they might get up to like fifteen or so and I've gotten down the five at one time before too. You know, it just kinda fluctuates. A lot of you know, since there's not races in the summer that that people start to fall off a little bit. So I I have a feeling that'll go down a little bit more until the fall comes up.
Chris Detzel (18:47.062)
That's cool. And you've been doing it for what, seven years, you said? Okay. So tell me a little bit about kind of the journey from you know you know, running with Rockwall Running Club all the way to, you know, the run house. How did that happen? You know, but I wanna kinda hear the journey, like, you know, you ran with these people and things that you know what I mean, like and then how the run house came together.
Miranda Hyvl (18:50.353)
Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep.
Miranda Hyvl (19:07.995)
Yeah. Yeah, you know, I started running with RC and you know, really there at the time, you know, had a store and Barrett ran that store and then he moved away, but a lot of the bonds had still been formed. So we were meeting up in grocery store parking lots all over town and Rockwall's kind of got a distinguished line with I-30 where there's the north side and the south side. And so the people that lived on the north side were meeting up, and the people that lived on the south side were
And we just weren't really, we didn't have any cohesion at all. And we tried to do stuff on our Facebook page, you know, we'd throw a route out there or, you know, try to, you know, meet up and everything, and there just wasn't a lot of unity or a lot of organization to it. And so I was coaching at the time and had some members of the Rockwell Running Club that I was coaching and also just some friends. And an individual approached me about coaching from his fitness facility.
And so I went out to his place to look at it. He wanted us to kind of have runners come there, meet up, we could use their bathroom and their water fountain and do that. But we were trying to work through the logistics and it was just really hard for us to figure out how to do this. Like we run super early. Do you want these people to have access to your fitness facility at five AM when no one's here? Do you you know, there was a lot of logistics and where he was located, it was right on a busy road.
And so I took some friends out there to try to run the some routes from there and it just wasn't feasible at the time. And so I came home and I talked to my husband about it. And he was just like, you know, there's a market for something like that. I wonder if you could start something. And I was just at the time, I I didn't really think about it. He's like, well, what are what runners want? I was like, well, they need a water fountain, they need a bathroom, they need a place, you know, to meet up instead of going to all these random, you know, gas stations and things like that. And he was like, okay, well, how can we, you know.
make this work to where, you know, we we could fit this like a membership option into it. So what we decided to do was create this recovery lounge. And so we have compression boots. We just added a sauna. We have vibration plates, massage guns, all sorts of different items for runners to recover. And we sell nutritional items, you know, we've got element and QO nutrition and Avocary, you know, different things like that that our runners use and sell that.
Miranda Hyvl (21:23.208)
And it's membership based. And so I plan the routes and the runs. We have certain runs per week. But everybody has an app that has access to the store. So that's why I'm not there right now because someone's up there using the compression booths. They just go up there and they can access it through their app. And so they can go in anytime they want. They can start runs there if they're not our scheduled runs. They can just have a a meetup and you know a certain group can say, Hey, we're, you know, like on Sundays, we don't have scheduled runs. There's a group that meets there every Sunday and
you know, they have access to the store, they put their keys and their bags and everything in there. It's it's just a home base, you know, for us. And it's yeah, it's a small space for now, but we're hoping to grow a little bit and you know, ideally we'd have a couch to watch football games and, you know, kinda have just a a little hangout. So it's it's been it's been fun watching it grow.
Chris Detzel (22:10.87)
That's pretty cool. I guess I I hadn't I had no idea that was the story. You know, I I thought it was just some little place that you had and people just come and run and I d I don't know. didn't know it was a store for you know, for that and and membership base. sounds really awesome. I mean, it sounds like it's been pretty successful.
Miranda Hyvl (22:30.401)
It has, yeah. You know, I wasn't sure at first, but we had a pretty strong core group that was still running together, you know, that was, you know, I kind of pulled and made sure that everybody was on board and they were all so supportive. I mean, our community out here, I think you've been exposed to it a little bit, is super strong runners and they're very active and very committed to, you know, there's you know, at least one or two groups out every morning out here. And so
You know, it it was just a lot to figure out at first as far as like timing, like how many, you know, solid group runs do we have? Do people run a you know, do speed work at tracks some days? You don't want to, you know, pull them away from that. And so we've tried we're trying to find a mix of doing scheduled runs, but not too much. And we do a pasta dinner, you know, once a month too. We do pull parties, Christmas parties, you know, it's just it's kinda like a club too, as far as that's concerned. Yeah.
Chris Detzel (23:21.672)
It is it only for like if I wanted to come up there and run with you guys, d do I have to get a membership to run?
Miranda Hyvl (23:26.94)
No. No. In fact, we encourage people to check us out and try us out for a bit before doing so just to make sure, you know, it's a good fit. So we have people that aren't members. We do I would say that most of the people that come on a regular basis do end up signing up though.
Chris Detzel (23:40.638)
That's great. It's a good conversion rate, you know, like
Miranda Hyvl (23:42.358)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris Detzel (23:46.899)
that that's pretty awesome. what's next for you? What's from a running standpoint? What are you doing next?
Miranda Hyvl (23:54.046)
I just signed up for Indianapolis and so we have a group going, not too many of us, we have a big group going to Marine Corps, and so that didn't work with some of our schedules, and so another group is gonna go to Indianapolis and try that out. I've never been to that race. I heard the logistics are great and it's a fast event, so I'm looking forward to that. yeah. Sure does.
Chris Detzel (24:12.66)
lot of folks from Pegasus is are are running that. So you know the group Pegasus in Dallas? Yeah. I think some fr folks from the Solas are running it too. So I mean it's it's a group of race from I yeah. So you might see at least some familiar faces in Dallas.
Miranda Hyvl (24:24.884)
Okay.
Miranda Hyvl (24:30.527)
Awesome. Yeah. And we're doing a a like kind of a social race too. that red, white, and blue in Dallas on July eighteenth. The Red House is going out there as well, just to kind of they have a two, four, eight and half, I think. And so we'll have a group just try to, you know, keep some summer energy going and do that as well.
Chris Detzel (24:49.108)
No way I'd do a half marathon this summer right now.
Miranda Hyvl (24:51.955)
I d I'm regretting that decision honestly, but I'm gonna go up there and just have fun with it.
Chris Detzel (24:57.3)
Yeah, you know, I mean, that's the way to do it. I I used to run the half marathons, or a bunch of them in the summer. I think I did it two years ago. And I realized like, you know what? This sucks. I mean, it just it's really hard. And so I decided from then on, I decided I would do five Ks. So lots of five K's kinda during the summer, so that I still get the speed and I still do long runs kind of in the mornings, but just running that hard, you know, for half
Marathon and you know, because it starts at a lot of times seven thirty or eight and then it's not done until nine thirty, ten you know, whenever you're done, you know, it's it gets hot, you know.
Miranda Hyvl (25:36.391)
Yeah. And it's tough. I mean, just running in Texas in the summer is hard. And I I try to work with the people that I'm coaching on that right now. There's always, you know, especially if it's your first summer running in Texas, it's just like, what happened to my pace? You know? And it's just, you know, that encouragement, like, just hang on, I just promise it'll get better in the fall. And so it's it's definitely not a a great time of the year to run. But I I do think that if I can stick through it, sometimes there's a benefit on the other side.
Chris Detzel (26:03.446)
percent I mean I agree like if you can get through the summertime then especially in Texas then October, November, December, anywhere you go is gonna feel amazing. You know, like you're gonna fly. So I just feel like this year I'm even though I'm running quite a bit, I feel out of shape, you know like
Miranda Hyvl (26:14.099)
Yes. Yeah, absolutely.
Miranda Hyvl (26:23.058)
Yeah. Yeah. I I get you. Yeah.
Chris Detzel (26:26.89)
It's rough, man. last year seemed but I don't know why. so how do you how do you train 'cause Indianapolis is in November and are you starting to train for that now or are you gonna really wait until August or whatever?
Miranda Hyvl (26:29.029)
I know.
Miranda Hyvl (26:41.36)
Yeah, I usually say that I like to stay half ready. You know, I usually try to like after Boston this year, I took a week or two off and then started to kind of just slowly come in back. But this is definitely an off season. so I've just been kind of keeping up my mileage, doing, you know, ten to twelve for a long run, five to six during the week. and then I think that my plan starts on July nineteenth. And so I will have to train, you know, some of the summer for Indianapolis, which I would have preferred
I used to try to do BCS as kind of like a qualifier race, but last year we did a race in Arkansas called White River. It's a smaller marathon, but it was right before Thanksgiving and got done before the holidays with the marathon. And I thought, well, this is great. And so I now I kind of would prefer to do that again. So we wanted a November race, so which that just backs things up a little bit more to train in July, which is fine. You know, we the meat of the training won't start until probably mid September. So that'll be okay.
Chris Detzel (27:37.374)
July and August are super hot and even September. So, you know, it it's gonna be hot for a few couple of months after, you know.
Miranda Hyvl (27:44.557)
It is. Yeah, you know, and I did Chicago a few years ago and then Berlin and so those were summer trainings too. So I I think, you know, it's inevitable. If you want to do anything, you know, remotely in the fall, you pretty much have to just work through it. So
Chris Detzel (27:58.625)
Have you which which majors have you done? It sounds like you've done quite a few of
Miranda Hyvl (28:03.61)
Yes, I've done Chicago, Berlin, London, Boston, New York, and so I'm missing Tokyo for my six stars. So eventually I'll I'll get there. This isn't our year. But my one of our daughters is getting married this year in March and so I don't think that's my year to try to go, but maybe next year.
Chris Detzel (28:21.344)
Yeah, I mean well it's hard to get in anyways, you know. so you basically I just have to pay your way in. It's generally how that works, you know. So
Miranda Hyvl (28:24.922)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. And that's probably what I'll have to do, either charity or marathon tours, I'm sure. But that's what I did for London. Actually I went with Leah from Boston to London and so we did year that she did that. And so I'm a I'm a firm believer and sometimes that's just what you gotta do. And and it was nice. They took good care of us.
Chris Detzel (28:49.856)
Any specific favorites, you know, marathon there or, you know, on the majors or experience?
Miranda Hyvl (28:56.973)
Yeah, they're all they're all so different. You know, like Berlin was probably my fastest major. but I don't know that I enjoyed it the most. It was, you know, a little more crowded than I would probably prefer. I love New York. New York's great. It's been a while since I've done it, but I was a newer runner when I did New York and newer marathoner and I was able to do it twice. I just love the energy of the city and just you know, running out through the different boroughs and
And then of course Boston. Boston just has a special place in my heart. I just I will keep trying to go back every year if I can, just the way that the city supports the runners and just the feel of, you know, staying downtown in the community and you know, basically shutting off the city for runners. It's just if, you know, all of our people around and we all get together and go to the old South Church at the finish line and do a church service of the blessing of the athletes. And, you know, it's just I love that whole
you know, Boston weekend is just really, really cool. And so I th I think that'll always be probably my top favorite. But I think each of them are so unique in their own way too. Like I've enjoyed every single one.
Chris Detzel (30:00.095)
I think Boston's great. Like I've not run, I mean I don't run marathons hardly or ever anymore. you know, my wife goes and and so I at least get to experience the atmosphere, the people that come. I mean, people there a lot of folks it's a big community kind of thing, you know, like a lot of people from Rockwall and Dallas and Fort Worth. I mean, there's a lot of people that go every single year. And so you know, it and and it's a ton of fun that friends and not just friends.
Miranda Hyvl (30:24.312)
Yeah.
Chris Detzel (30:29.576)
you know, family but also a ton of friends get to go, you know, to those things and and
Miranda Hyvl (30:34.743)
Absolutely. Yeah. We've had you know, some of our kids have gotten to go with us and like this year from the run house, we had people come to spectate, just to come support. We had seven ladies go this year and we have some guys that just wanted to come and just, you know, experience Boston. They did the five K and were able to get into that and just come out and just be a part of things. It was really cool.
Chris Detzel (30:54.314)
Yeah, 5K is breaked. I didn't get to do it this year, but I've I've done it four or five times and it's a great experience, you know. I do find that the last time I did it, I stood there way too long, like over an hour before we started. My legs were hurting already, like I couldn't st like you know, I had to get warmed up. It took me half a mile just get warmed up and then finally that could be because of old age, who knows?
Miranda Hyvl (31:18.848)
Yeah, it is very crowded for a five K. We did it my first year in Boston. I was like just blown away. I'm used to, you know, little smaller five Ks around Dallas. I was like, this is insane. It it took us, you know, ten minutes just to walk to the stark from the corral to get to the star, you know. It was crazy.
Chris Detzel (31:35.776)
That is crazy. Any specific thing that you like to do in Boston? You know, you went to the church, you know, friends get to come, any any rituals?
Miranda Hyvl (31:44.5)
well we always eat it eatily, La Pizza La Pasta. And so this year we did a couple of group meals together. We did Magianos and then we did that. we just love, you know, especially if any of my kids have gone, we've kind of we've taken our girls all separately and individually to go at different years. And so just watching it through their eyes and going to see, you know, all the different pop-ups down on Newberry Street, just you know, it was just a runner's haven, you know, everybody down there just
you know, selling items, giving away stuff and just talking to the different people about their experiences and meeting so many different, you know, the energy is just incredible. And I think just being a part of all of it, we yeah, we de but definitely have the rituals where we go to eat it eatily the night before the race that was a must and then the church service on Sunday.
Chris Detzel (32:32.85)
Italia.
Miranda Hyvl (32:34.675)
It's in the convention center, like right next to in the mall right there, next to the expo.
Chris Detzel (32:38.622)
it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I mean we love it eatily. So if we go to the one at the mall we have one here in the mall in in Dallas, the park lane or forget the whatever park mall right off of 75. So but yeah so I wanna shift a little bit because I'm interested in you know a lot of times you know during training and and things like that, you know, injuries
Miranda Hyvl (32:55.413)
Yes.
Chris Detzel (33:06.868)
have happened. And I don't know, like is there anything that you ever had to deal with from an injury standpoint and how'd you deal with it if so? And if not, I'm shocked.
Miranda Hyvl (33:14.589)
Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I ha knock on wood, you know, I haven't had anything too major in the last few years. But when I first got started, there was just a lot to figure out. I realized early on you can't just run. You know, I thought that was going to be, you know, the runners run, but that's not always the case. You know, I learned that I needed to strength train. I started having some hip issues at first. definitely started doing like a lot of bandwork and you know, mobility exercises.
To warm up and to you know, just all the time I'm just trying to do something to, you know, increase mobility and strengthen my hips. And the the worst injury that I had though was probably plantar fasciitis. I had that probably five years into running, and it just took forever to get rid of. And that was very annoying and painful. And I, you know, was a little more stubborn than I should have been at first and didn't just shut it down. And so
I when I eventually shut it down and got some help, you know, it it it eventually went away. But and now I've learned some things to do to keep it at bay if I feel like it's going to start flaring up again.
Chris Detzel (34:19.634)
How do you d talk a little bit about like you know strength training and other kind of things that's not running? Do you do a lot of that stuff and what is it?
Miranda Hyvl (34:30.521)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, well, for mobility, like in the morning I do a routine called the Myrtle routine. A lot of people do that. they can find it online. And it's just a little version of opening up your hips and you know, making sure that your body is prepared and ready to run. I do push ups and sit ups, like just body work stuff every single day. And then right now I'm adding in a routine called at F forty five. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that. I do their resistance training three days a week.
But I mean, I switch it up throughout the years. I've done different things where like McMillan, when I train with their plans, they have a strength training that's built into their program. And so I'll you know, do their little runner specific trainings. I try to do runner specific things, not just, you know, lifting weights or anything like that. I try to do things that, you know, that are are more specific for a runner.
Chris Detzel (35:22.432)
No, that makes sense. So that's good. I mean, you know, my wife's been telling me that I need to start doing more strength training and getting into the you know, I'm older, I'm fifty one now and she's like, you know, Chris, we're not young. So we have to we have to do more strength we have to do some strength training. It doesn't have to be a lot, but maybe two or three times a week to get into the gym and do some weights or, you know, some core stuff, you know.
Miranda Hyvl (35:49.079)
Absolutely. Yeah, and that balance, you know, and stability, which helps, you know, you're running as well, but just helps you just not, you know, fall in later in life and all of that too. You know, that's always a factor as we we begin to age. I feel that too. Don't worry. So
Chris Detzel (36:01.214)
You know, I remember not too long ago I was trying to balance just on this beam. Used to I was very good at it, you know, and or at least pretty good at it. Now I can't balance worth the crap. So I agree. I mean it it does it does take a toll on you if you don't, you know, practice it and and even like jumping. you know, used to I could easily go and touch the net or whatever on the basketball thing and now I d I'm like, I don't want to jump that high, you know. I might hurt something.
Miranda Hyvl (36:12.047)
Yeah. Yeah.
Miranda Hyvl (36:20.891)
Yeah.
Miranda Hyvl (36:28.728)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I get the and and that's what I like about going to F forty five. I just renewed my membership there. I enjoy it there because they kind of like have things like that, like jumping on a box, you know, or things I just probably wouldn't do at home. That you just go in for 45 minutes and they kind of push you and stretch you in ways that I normally wouldn't, that kind of keeps my body active and doing things that, you know, in a in a controlled environment that I'm not going to, you know, do something to hurt myself.
Chris Detzel (36:57.366)
I wanna get to the community aspect because you know I think about this a lot and and it's it's really what keeps me running is is around kind of the community. I mean you've built this whole entire, you know, store around it and you have a coaching gig. I mean, and so you are obviously around the the running community and and probably believe that you know it's it's core to to continue to go on for long runs and things like that, like you mentioned. Can you talk more about that? You know, what does that mean to you and
You know, I'm just I always want to talk about that because I think it's important.
Miranda Hyvl (37:31.169)
Yeah, and that and that's everything to me. And that's why I started the Run House. And that's you know, my husband tells people that all the time. You know, we didn't get into this to be our retirement plan by any means. It's just because we love the running community and the people that are involved and we didn't want to see that, you know, go away and everyone, you know, has been together for a long time and we have new people coming in. And runners are just great people. I found, you know, I'm involved in a lot of different, you know, community organizations and aspects and with parent.
involvement and things like that. And you know, I just love being around runners. They they're always helpful and giving and wanting to do back. We do a lot of, you know, community service projects where we give back. They're always involved in that. yeah, I mean it just to me, it just starts my day off right being around positive, uplifting people that have similar goals, that everybody's, you know, trying to better themselves, you know, I think in our society there's so many quick fixes to kind of, you know,
self-soother, if you will. And I feel like with runners, you know, they're willing to put in the hard work and do the hard things and you know, be vulnerable and, you know, be humble and just really put themselves out there. And so I think that's why I'm just so attracted to the running community because I I I'm always encouraged and motivated by everyone, you know, whether it's the person just getting started or somebody that's a little bit ahead of me doing things that I haven't done yet. You know, I feel like there's
There's a place for everyone and I I I really I wanna be a part of all of it and hear their stories.
Chris Detzel (39:01.494)
Yeah, it's it's fun to see you know, different people doing different things. Like you guys have the run house and you know, it's a place people can, you know, come to together, run and do a a bunch of other different things and and just be together, right? I mean to me that's kind of what you I mean, yeah, I mean there's a membership, but I mean it's it's not like you're gonna get rich from it, you know, it's it's really just there to be able to I'm sure pay the bills that you have to pay to do that and you know, and and and then some, you know. So
Miranda Hyvl (39:28.907)
Yes.
Chris Detzel (39:30.762)
Yeah, I love that you do that and I think it's amazing. I mean, you have these running group leaders that don't that do this for free, right? They run these groups that like Pegasus. I mean, I'm not saying that, you know, Fonds doesn't have coaching on the side and things like that, but you know, I mean it's like somebody has to organize the group, somebody has to do I mean, that's hard work. You know, it's like I'm part of WRRC, for example, and there's like five or six of us that run that group, you know, we don't
Miranda Hyvl (39:39.563)
Yeah.
Miranda Hyvl (39:44.775)
Miranda Hyvl (39:54.326)
Yeah.
Chris Detzel (39:59.423)
make any money at all doing any of that. We show up, we some some of the folks do the water stations and you know, they do different things and and you know and and I think it's just because of the love of running and the community itself. And so you know
Miranda Hyvl (40:01.865)
Yeah.
Miranda Hyvl (40:15.69)
Yes. Yeah, absolutely. We have we're as we were trying to grow the summer, you know, we found that we have different pace groups and different needs of times of day to run. And I can't be at everything, you know. So, you know, I do the early morning runs on Tuesdays and Fridays. And so on Thursday nights, we started a beginner's run. And I was just like, you know, could someone help out with this?
And so many people have stepped up and said, absolutely, you know, and we've had kind of a designated guy that took over Thursday nights just volunteer basis, you know. And then we started finding a need for people wanting to run later than 5 a.m. And so another person stepped up and said, you know what, I'll I'll lead a six AM run. Any pace welcome, I'll stay back with whoever, you know, needs the
the pace that they want. And so we've had a we I could not do it without our community because I there's like I said, I can't be, you know, at every single event and and and with every single runner. Somebody's got to lead the front and somebody needs to kind of be towards the back, you know. And so I find that, you know, there if I didn't have everybody willing to let a hand like you were just mentioning, you know, people like that and I wouldn't be able to do it. And you know, we've had races where we volunteer and I've just asked if anybody could come and you know there's
hands going up and people showing up and what can I do to help. It's just it's great.
Chris Detzel (41:28.948)
It is. And, you know, as I see myself getting older, I do see myself doing more and more of those kind of volunteer things. Like, you know, we volunteer in Dallas, Marathon, and other races and and things like that. But I think, you know, as I'm getting close to retirement, you know, why not? Or at least at some point I'm gonna retire. But but yeah, that's really great. So is there anything that I missed at all kind of during our conversation? man, we should have talked about this thing that you know we didn't talk about.
Miranda Hyvl (41:46.343)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Chris Detzel (41:58.837)
Or kind of working.
Miranda Hyvl (41:59.631)
No, I mean I I don't know. We did I mean we just had a fun little event this past weekend called the Rockwell Mile. I I sent you some information about that. We're trying to, you know, do some extra things out here. We used to have a half marathon out here in Rockwell and I think there's been some talk of trying to get some more races out here. So, you know, we're trying to grow with the community, not just, you know, get our own runs in, but you know, try to find ways to broaden our our reach a little bit. So yeah.
Got some exciting things coming up with that.
Chris Detzel (42:30.272)
I I love that and I I do remember you sending me that and I did post it, but tell me more about like how many people show I've I've got a little thing that I'll I'll 'cause I'm very interested in that mile run because it's little different, you know?
Miranda Hyvl (42:43.418)
Yeah, yeah. Well, this didn't count how many people actually came. I think we probably had thirty. We were just getting started. We had a lot of people that we were hoping to come out that some of the high school local athletes, but they had like a regional meet for the AAU group. Cause what my intention was at first to get some of these high school athletes racing some of our runners, which would have been a lot of fun. So I think we're gonna make it a series. We had Brooks come out and Mount Deco shoes, and so the winners got free Brooks shoes and then they got gift cards.
Chris Detzel (42:50.08)
Okay.
Miranda Hyvl (43:11.969)
Racket and jog, which is our local running store that we partner with on all of our events. And so we we work very closely with them because I don't sell shoes and or you know, running apparel or anything like that. So he kind of does that. We do the community stuff and we, you know, most of our events we do together. But it was a lot of fun. We did a community mile with, you know, just anybody that wanted to kind of warm up or just walk or, you know, dog, whatever. And then we did the competitive one after that.
So we're hoping the next time it grows a little bit and we can have a few more people. But I thought it went really well. So it was a lot of fun.
Chris Detzel (43:42.326)
That is awesome. So, how what was the competitive time was the fastest?
Miranda Hyvl (43:48.885)
four thirty three was Nathan Rankin. Yeah, which Greg Rankin, his dad has around with us for years and so he's you know, in Dallas as well. But he yeah, they came out and so Nathan won.
Chris Detzel (43:52.262)
You can't.
Chris Detzel (44:01.065)
I love it. So was anybody close to him at all or?
Miranda Hyvl (44:04.905)
No. You know what they mean? They were well, we had one runner that was gonna come out that had actually injured his hamstring in seaside with his kids right beforehand that I think could have, you know, been competitive. But the next closest was five eighteen. And so I think we're gonna get some more people out here, I think the next time that could hopefully give him a run for his money. So
Chris Detzel (44:25.606)
Like doing the miles kind of fun. There's not a lot of miles out there. So the sloths last year, Matt Campbell, I don't know if you know him at all, but he did he and this guy Farrell. Farrell works now at what's that running store in Dallas off Markingbird? Not Luke's, but the other one. yeah, it's not run on anymore though, but that's what it was.
Miranda Hyvl (44:47.55)
Ron?
Chris Detzel (44:52.946)
Yeah, they got bought. Run on got bought by I forget. Anyways, so so they had this thing called 1776, and so they brought all the fast people, so from the sloth, Pegasus, last year, and it's called 1776. And so you had to instead of just running the mile or you'd had to determine like what did you think you were gonna run? You know, just guess what you're gonna run. So the person that got closest to what they were gonna run.
wins. It's not how fast you win. So they can so that was kind of fun. And they there's probably fifty or sixty people there. I mean it was a good turnout. And then they're doing it this Saturday as well. It's called 1776. and they're gonna have a shit ton of people there. You know, and it's just that's why all I'm saying, Rand is that that's great that you started that, but if you do it again next year, you know I think the opportunity is big. And then
Miranda Hyvl (45:22.839)
Yeah,
Miranda Hyvl (45:35.81)
Thank you.
Miranda Hyvl (45:40.722)
Chris Detzel (45:50.945)
They did some this year they did like so they're doing that mile thing on Saturday, prediction run is kind of what it's called, I think. And then they did a couple more kind of track workout things that are are runs in speed like a five K and then something else. So they added on over the last this this last month and stuff. So the point is like, you know, they're getting these different types of races on, you know, that are fun. I mean, no I don't think there's you know
Miranda Hyvl (45:59.19)
Mm-hmm.
Miranda Hyvl (46:15.982)
That's a
Chris Detzel (46:17.984)
There's not sponsors, but it's kind of cool that you did get, you know, Brooks. So you know, so I think that's there's you've got something. I really believe that.
Miranda Hyvl (46:22.102)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And we were thinking of making i even a summer series, where we do June, July, and August where in even people that maybe don't have to, you know, try to win or anything like that, that just try to beat their PR and give them like an extra raffle ticket if they beat their P you know, PR from before. And 'cause that we also did a raffle for a free pair of shoes as well. And so, you know, just some ideas to try to keep people motivated during the summer and have a lot of fun with it and come out and there's another
event that we were gonna do but it got canceled 'cause of rain, but we're still gonna end up doing it at some point. I don't know if you've heard of a scrambled legs where you run as many laps as you can. So it's like a little loop, you know, and whoever last man standing kind of thing. And so we're hoping to do one of those as well in the near future.
Chris Detzel (47:10.71)
Ooh, that'd be fun. Maybe I'll come out and do several laps, you know?
Miranda Hyvl (47:14.464)
Yeah, yeah. And it'll give our people that are doing long runs on the weekend too, you know, a way to get their long run in and just be a part of things and stuff too, just in a race environment.
Chris Detzel (47:23.968)
Miranda, this has been good. Did I miss anything? w I think we're good.
Miranda Hyvl (47:28.896)
think so. No, I I I think that's all I have.
Chris Detzel (47:32.918)
Well great. Well, thank you so much, Miranda, for coming. and thank you for what you do in the Rockwall community and the running community in general and the DFW area. with the run house and putting on races and and just and being there for our runners. I think you know it's it's pretty amazing. And I certainly thank you so much for coming on and to tell your story and and and things like that. And thank you everyone for tuning in to another DFW Running Talk. Make sure you subscribe to the newsletter at
DFW running talk.substack.com and rate and review us. Hey, that's always helpful. Miranda, thanks again.
Miranda Hyvl (48:08.062)
No, thank you.
