Rebecca Roush: From College Injuries to 2:57 Marathon - Smart Training After Motherhood

DFW Running Talk: Rebecca Roush
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Chris Detzel: [00:00:00] Alright, welcome to another DFW Running Talk. I'm Chris Detzel, and today we have Rebecca Rosch. Rebecca, how are you? I'm doing great Chris. How are you? Good and welcome back. You were on, you were on the fast women talk or I think that's what I call it. I can't remember, but it was fun.

It was a lot of fun. I was really, I enjoyed it. It was like the episode did pretty well too. And so that's always exciting, but it's always fun to get stories and especially about running. And that's what we're gonna talk a little bit about today is your story about running.

How about that? Yeah, I want jump right in. Let's do this. Beck. Tell us a little bit about you and how you got started running and things like that. And I'll probably just ask pointed questions throughout if that's fair.

Rebecca Roush: Sounds great. Yeah. Good. So I guess starting off, this goes way back middle school, I feel like it's kinda, when it started for me, I was not good at sprinting and pretty much they punted me to distance and I started, I feel like that's common

Chris Detzel: story.

Rebecca Roush: Really. Okay. Yeah. I feel like [00:01:00] it was just like, I heard it

Chris Detzel: two or three times, something like that.

Rebecca Roush: I wasn't good at sprinting and then all of a sudden just start, doing pretty well at small meets and I was like, okay, cool. I was about to go into my, into high school the summer before. Wait.

In

Chris Detzel: seventh and eighth grade you started running and then was it just two miles?

Rebecca Roush: Two miles, yes. Okay. There was the two mile and the one mile. They tried to put me in the 800, but I was not good at that was track

Chris Detzel: then. So there was no cross country

Rebecca Roush: track. True. Yeah. But I think they might've had it, but there was like barely anyone doing it at the time, so I think I thought, okay, I'll just start it in high school.

So very excited. And I was like going into my high school year, first cross country season was gonna be in the fall and then went to cheerleading camp and I broke my pelvis. Oh my God. So that, I feel like a big part of my running journey has been injuries. So that was kinda the first, like major one.

So broke my pelvis and cheerleading and then had to get two screws in my hip. So coming into the fall before my freshman year of cross country was super hard, going through PT and trying to like. [00:02:00] Do all the things like walk, just kinda relearning everything.

Chris Detzel: Geez.

Rebecca Roush: So that was quite a recovery.

How

Chris Detzel: long did that take?

Rebecca Roush: Goodness. Like probably four or five months. But I was able to like. I think I did regionals that year. I made it to regionals. It was a smaller school. I did okay. It was like barely coming back into running. But then the following spring I made it to stay in track in the two mile.

So I had no, came from, as I said, like small school and my mom, I would just be like, oh, I signed up like for this random 5K. So my training was like just signing up for five Ks on the weekend and just running them as hard as possible.

Chris Detzel: That's pretty cool though.

Rebecca Roush: You really start I don't know, from the, I guess start from the bottom.

We had a friend I was wearing like those what do you call, like Meno? Almost shocks. Yeah. They're super heavy. Yeah, I remember. And I thought that was like what you're supposed to wear. And one of my friend's dads was like, you need to go to Luke's locker in Dallas and go get fitted for real running shoes.

Yeah. So then regionals, protract, like my amazing [00:03:00] what we

Chris Detzel: just know, especially as kids. I feel like I'm probably way older than you and so back when I was a kid, like my coach was like, oh, you should, you, here's some running shoes, and when I was a freshman, I think I started wearing them and I knew nothing about running shoes.

Like I didn't even know yeah. 'cause we were poor, my family didn't even think about that. Wouldn't probably never buy me shoes. So I just thought I can wear those shoes for the rest of, my se until I was a senior. Yeah. Feet or my shins started hurting while I was a senior. Yeah.

Really bad because the shoes weren't good anymore. I didn't know. Yes.

Rebecca Roush: That's a long time.

Chris Detzel: It's really, it's four years. You

Rebecca Roush: dunno what you dunno.

Chris Detzel: It's hard. That's how much I didn't know. I had no idea. I didn't even know until later down the road and I realized, oh, that's why I had shin splints and couldn't run most of the senior year, so anyways,

Rebecca Roush: hindsight's 2020.

Chris Detzel: Yeah. Shoes are a big thing. If you just keep running them in 'em and [00:04:00] if you hit too many miles on 'em, you gotta change the shoes,

Rebecca Roush: For sure. Yeah. So I think, yeah, my friends, I went to Luke's locker, we got the Asics, they were just like the gel Nimbus, I think. I don't know.

Chris Detzel: I love the Nimbus, or I did. I used to always wear those. By the way,

Rebecca Roush: those are my favorite back in the day. I've changed to Brooks. They're really heavy. They are. Yeah. At the time though, compared to my like heavy shocks, I think that helped me 'cause I was like, I was essentially like weight training on my feet for three.

So I swapped to those shoes at regionals and then made a state. It was like a miracle whenever I was a freshman. Yeah, that was pretty cool. It's

Chris Detzel: amazing what shoes can do today, even then. Yeah.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. And now,

Chris Detzel: Breakthroughs are important for sure, not just in AI and technology, but it also in shoes.

Yes. For real. So I love that.

Rebecca Roush: I guess jumping, I'll try to jump through high school pretty quick, but yeah. Yeah. I guess the following December, so I guess like a year and a half later had the screws taken outta my hip, so had to recover from that. And I had a bunch of stress fractures, so I don't, probably similar to you.

Who knows if it was the shoes or just I just had a lot of injuries. So lots of stress fractures throughout high [00:05:00] school. Finally made it to state and cross country my junior year. But it took like a while. I tore my calf at one point. I don't know, I just, it was crazy. What the hell are you doing?

I dunno. I think I was trying to do cheerleading too and like just, just overdoing it like. Totally overdoing it. And then I joined, I don't know if you've heard of Metroplex Striders. Terry Jessup was the coach and we would go to Norbu Park. Yeah. So I'd drive up, my mom would go with me and drive an hour and twice a week and I would get roasted by those girls.

They were so fast and so I was just like trying to learn how to keep up and actually do real training. Oh, that's awesome. I think that was my, started at the end of my sophomore year and I guess they met at SMU Track and then we had swapped based on the season. But it was so hard. I remember my eyes were like, open.

Hit you fast. Yeah. They were trying, but I'm sure they were like laughing in their heads. I was kidding. At the time it seemed like they were all just, so good. So that was really cool to be a part of. And then I ran in college, I guess jumping over to that. So yeah, ran in college at Dallas Baptist.

Get Scholarship college. Yes. Okay. Dallas Baptist University and [00:06:00] Coach Phillips. He's still there. He's awesome. But the high mileage, I had no idea till I got to college. I was like, this is insane. It's I think we got on campus and we had run I don't remember how many miles in the morning and it just felt like a race every single day at practice.

Really. It was like how these people do it and then we get, I just didn't even hear before my, like first day or anything. So we do this super hard, I'm like dying on like first day of practice and they're like, seal, were you in

Chris Detzel: shape or no?

Rebecca Roush: I was, but I don't think I like with the intensity? No.

Like the mileage and intensity, just a huge step up. And then they were like, okay, see y'all at the double this afternoon. And I was like, double

Chris Detzel: what the hell's a double?

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. So that was, it was eye-opening. It was a challenge. I'm not gonna lie. The first two years I feel like of college.

And I think we talked about this a little bit on the Boston one. The high mileage just did not work for me. I think. Being injury prone. I had a lot of injuries. And finally, I think it was like a year and a half in, I like went to my coach Phillips and he's let's try doing like a couple days of cross training.

And that has been [00:07:00] like game changing for me. So at the time I did a lot of like elliptical because I'd heard, I think from Terry, my high school coach, who was like, oh, like that's the most similar motion to running. But since. Jumping to now. I do more biking now 'cause another injury I had, I tore my ACL in college, but I feel like that's helped that muscle to do something different compared to running.

So anyways, lots of cross training talk, but

Chris Detzel: yeah, no, I think that's part of that's important because when you think of, I. A lot of runners, some of the runners that I've talked to as of late are running ridiculous amount of miles even now. 80 to 120 miles. And I'm like, I don't even know on how you do it.

And two is, I've never been able to run that high mileage. And when I start getting up into the high fees my body actually starts breaking down my sweet spot's, probably 35 to 40 ish, 40 something maybe. And especially if I'm doing speed work, speed work is even worse. It's not bad for you.

You need it, you need to get better, you have way more of a chance to kinda get injured. Yeah. And so I've stayed away from it, because from [00:08:00] that super high mileage, I understand that it does help a lot. But it just, I'd rather just be able to just to run and not have to, and compete at maybe a half marathon level.

Okay. Okay. Those kinds instead of a marathon. That's why I stopped doing marathons. I was like, I just can't do it.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard and it's hard finding the sweet spot for everyone. I feel like most people, it's oh, the high mileage works. So I always thought that's what it takes to get fast.

I want that. But eventually it was like, I think whenever I backed off it, like I saw results and more results. So it was encouraging to be like, okay, like I gotta stop comparing to other people. Whatever works for some people just doesn't work for me. So I feel like I've been. Happy once I've realized that, especially post-college, I'm like, okay, this is what works for me.

And this is outta balance life for me too. So it makes me enjoy it more.

Chris Detzel: I think that. Know, post-college, you have to be realistic. One, you gotta find a job and do that full time. You gotta, you're gonna get married at some point, then you're gonna have a kid like you've already done, right?

Like in life just happens. And if you could and just doing as amount of running that you're doing now and [00:09:00] just some of the times we'll talk about and things that you're doing, just the accomplishments that you've had, the marathon and others, hopefully we'll talk about. It's pretty amazing, yeah. Anyways let's, all right, so you go to college Jump.

Rebecca Roush: Yep.

Chris Detzel: And Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.

Rebecca Roush: College, I guess the only other major thing that happened was junior year Toma, CL. That was like, I thought, oh man, like I've already gone through a major surgery. This will be no big deal. It was so hard. It knocked me on my butt, like I.

I think too, I had idolized running too much during college, turned it into the end all be all, and that's never good. I'll do that as runners, it seems, yeah. Learned my lesson again as soon as all my priorities got outta line. What'd

Chris Detzel: you do in college? Like on the ones that you weren't injured on?

How are you doing? I'm interested. Yeah. College runner.

Rebecca Roush: Before I tore my ACL, I feel like I was at my peak. I just prd. 'cause you do, cross country, indoor track and outdoor tracks, you're just always competing except for the summer that you're off and then you're building your base.

And so I feel like I was like at my peak right Then I remember my coach coming to me and being like, [00:10:00] okay, I just run like an 1807 and the indoor 5K and he's you break 18, I'll take you to this. Cool. Meet with me. I think it was in California or something. So he came, write that and then two weeks later I tore my ACL and I was like.

How you turn it,

Chris Detzel: what'd you do?

Rebecca Roush: So I was on a skiing trip, a college skiing trip more and I've been, every year. I know, I've been every year with my family before that. Getting dangerous. Yeah, it is. I have not been since. I'm too scared now. Recovery was too long. People

Chris Detzel: are like, Hey Chris, you wanna go ski?

No. I've seen too many people bust out their knees and have to get all this crazy stuff. It's a lot of times the first time and I'm like, it's not that I don't wanna do it because it looks a lot of fun to me. I'm not gonna do it. Yes. Like I just, I'm not,

Rebecca Roush: And then I had, I feel like I did it to myself too, because we had a tempo run.

I think that morning. I think I did either eight or 10 miles on the treadmill. Super hard. Where at Altitude. And I was like killing myself.

Chris Detzel: You probably didn't even think about it.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. I'm gonna, do this work. I don't think I was gonna Mentality to adjust. Yeah. Young and dumb. No adjustments.

Like I'd be out there skiing all day. Clearly that's a workout. No, I'm [00:11:00] like, I'm gonna get this in, do exactly what it says. And then got out there and like my legs were already tired and then some guys that I was meeting up with had already done a couple runs and yeah, so went a little too hard and tore a seal.

But that was

Chris Detzel: probably took you out for the rest of the year at least.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah, so that took me, that was in like January of 17 and then I didn't even come, it took me like the rest of the whole rest of the school year. And then I was in PT that summer and I had an internship and I remember I was trying to run like I.

I was getting up at four, trying to go like to a run, and then I'd go to PT before work because I couldn't get off my internship to go to pt and then, so then I would shower there at PT and then go into work. So I was like getting, it was insane. But then huge, I felt like comeback story again of, we made it, our team made it to the.

NCAA nationals and I was our seventh girl so I made the team and I was like, they were counting me out 'cause they like, hadn't been barely running all summer and had been like not running at all for So you're

Chris Detzel: back already in August then? [00:12:00]

Rebecca Roush: Yes. So I think like maybe like June or July I was starting to run just like a little bit, like in every other day, three miles.

And then, yeah, but you're trying to catch up with everyone on the team and I'm going to meet the whole season and like very behind. And then, so it was a pretty big accomplishment. I feel like I was very happy to be able to be on like the team that went to nationals. It's this is incredible.

So

Chris Detzel: that is awesome.

Rebecca Roush: Exciting.

Chris Detzel: What were you, what was your times? As in 'cause was it three miles then, 5K It was six K

Rebecca Roush: and 5K. So I think like I ran like I should to even look. I know the five Ks I've gotten in the 18. So I was happy with that. Always wanted to break in the seventeens and I feel like the injuries set me back, like my progress really happened post.

So you don't do five

Chris Detzel: Ks anymore then to I haven't

Rebecca Roush: lately, but I want, okay. My husband's maybe we should do that. 'cause it's not quite as intense as like marathon training.

Chris Detzel: Especially at summertime, I mean it's a perfect time to do it. You're not gonna run marathons in the summer, true. So if you do some speed work, I know a lot of the the slots and things like that are gonna do 5K, so it's fun. 'cause they're doing [00:13:00] like sixteens. Yeah. And stuff. Yeah. They're going really fast. Yeah. These folks look just ridiculous. So

Rebecca Roush: it's awesome. Yeah, it's, I that's pretty cool.

I ran with them this last weekend and I had been like a stomach bug like a week and a half ago and they were, I was like, I was trying so hard to keep up. I was like, I see em. They're so fun. They're a lot of fun.

Chris Detzel: Oh, I'll story then. Four weeks ago, I think. I don't know what it was. But anyways, so I went to this 5K, it's a local 5K called Velvet Hammer, 5K.

And it's this local brewery that they do every year. Anyways, I go there and I'm with my son and this guy, and I see these guys because I've already interviewed most of them, not all of them, but a few of them. I was like, Hey, I think I know them. So I look at their shirt, it says, completely said, I know.

And they pretty much went, I think they went 1, 2, 3, 4. Awesome. May, maybe there's one guy in there that was in there, so it was fun, yeah. And they just flew, sixteens, was kinda,

Rebecca Roush: they're all so nice though. And just like down to art people. I [00:14:00] love all them.

Chris Detzel: They're super nice. Yeah. It's, I see 'em lately at the lake Highlands track.

Rebecca Roush: Nice. Yeah.

Chris Detzel: I didn't go today, but the last couple of weeks I saw in there.

So like Jennifer Pope and Matt Campbell and some other guys.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. That's awesome. Anyways, we run with that group and train Pegasus a lot. I like completely soft train Pegasus.

Yeah.

Chris Detzel: Did you and your husband run with them together or? Yes. Yes.

Rebecca Roush: Prior to baby. Can you do it together?

Chris Detzel: Because now you, I know you have a baby. What's the

Rebecca Roush: Yeah, it's a lot. I feel like we're still trying to figure it out, but since the baby, I think we've been together to run maybe once or twice.

Chris Detzel: Okay, so not much, but

Rebecca Roush: otherwise separate. Yeah. I feel like we're still trying to figure that out, but we're getting better during the week. I kinda feel like we've got figured out and then on the weekends we're still trying to figure out our new. Rhythm and routine. So this last weekend, he watched the baby so I could go.

So that was nice.

Chris Detzel: That was nice. Yeah. Yeah.

Rebecca Roush: But Boston, it was hard. 'cause I know we talked about that a little bit, but it was like, Hey, he's gonna go run for three hours, even though I, that's pretty much, only train for a month. But I was like, okay, he's gonna go train for three hours and someone doesn't wanna come back and [00:15:00] then go for it.

'cause then it's so much later, it's just feels like it takes up the whole day.

Chris Detzel: Alright, so you get college, you run pretty good, you get injured a lot. What'd you start doing? You started intern, you had an intern and things like that. Yes.

Rebecca Roush: So then after that, a year later after that I graduated.

And

Chris Detzel: Congrats. That's good. Yeah.

Rebecca Roush: Thanks. And let's see. First marathon. I didn't do till graduated in 2018, so I didn't do my first marathon until December of 2019.

Chris Detzel: Do you need halves or anything like before any of that?

Rebecca Roush: I feel like it was, I was almost trying to recover from not racing as much 'cause we'd race like almost every weekend in college.

So it was like, cross country, indoor outdoor. So I was like a recovering person who's I just don't wanna race. So I was running with a lot of people and we'd made up a TTT group that's, it's dissolved a long time ago, but we had some cool friends that we met through that. And we created this track Tuesday, tempo Thursday group, and it probably dissolved in like 2020.

Most of them moved away, but it was a lot of fun. And through that, I feel like I just signed up for one time I signed up for a half marathon, like the night before. But between then it [00:16:00] was like I started pacing some races, got into a little pacing. That's fun. Pacing. Yeah, I love pacing.

So then by the time I like actually wanted to race again, I feel like it was like a year later because I was like, oh, so much racing in college. So yeah, I started training for the December, 2019 marathon. I did Dallas. But I started training in June, so I'd asked my college coach for a plan and it was 20 weeks and I, that's what I wanted.

I was like, I wanna do this 20 week training plan. Oh man, I got to November, ended up doing the DRC half, before, like in November, it's probably three or four weeks before I was spent. Like I had no idea. I'd never trained for a marathon, so I'm like, I wanna be very prepared. Just for the

Chris Detzel: half you were spent?

Rebecca Roush: Yes. Like after, right after the half I was like, oh man. I think since then, how about you do a

Chris Detzel: marathon?

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. I was like, okay. Since then I'd be like, okay, like 12 to 14 weeks is like my like intense training. But before that you're just building base and but I feel like the 20 week block was so long for me to stay focused.

Maybe other people like it's a long time

Chris Detzel: for sure. Yeah. I think probably if you start in [00:17:00] late August, it's probably a better June is, it's at another month, yeah.

Rebecca Roush: I feel like building a base is fine or just but okay, I'm doing this on this day, this on this day, like hard workouts.

It was like, that's a lot for me. Yeah, I'm trying to think. Dallas, I came in not knowing there were any hills on that course either and no nutrition figured out. I think the day of, I was like taking my caramel gross juice for the fir the goose for the first time. It was so nasty I couldn't even get it down.

And I think at the DRC half, I had run like three weeks before. I think I ran like a 1 27. Yeah. And my first half in the Dallas Marathon was a 1 28. So I was like, I feel it sounds like a bad idea. Wait. Yeah. And then at mile 14 I was like, I started to feel it and I was like, oh man, it was so hot and humid.

And then, you get to like mile 16 where you're like at the lake and you can see downtown and it's so far. And I was like, oh my, we have, yeah. So much farther to go.

Chris Detzel: You're not even close.

Rebecca Roush: No. You're over [00:18:00] half,

Chris Detzel: but that's still not,

Rebecca Roush: it was the longest last 10 miles of my life. I ended up like finishing a three 16 at my first, so I was like overall very happy with it.

But to come through at 1 28, in my head I was like, oh, I could finish sub, sub three. Yeah. No way.

Chris Detzel: But your first marathon, you did a three 16.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah, I was pretty

Chris Detzel: happy with it.

Rebecca Roush: It was just, a very

Chris Detzel: painful, I think that. I think that being a, an athlete, going from high school to college, so you, I think, obviously you had some ability, right?

You don't go to college and run on their team and not have ability. So for sure. I think that does help, honestly. But still, three 16 is really fast with somebody. I didn't do really good at nutrition.

Rebecca Roush: True. Yeah. I don't even remember if I actually, I'd have to look back 'cause I tried to take notes on some of them.

I like don't even know if I actually took in go, it just did not, I don't know that race, it was like a mess. And for it to go, like I finished and that was like, I was happy. I was like, okay, you sure did. Didn't completely, [00:19:00]

Chris Detzel: you did extremely well for your first marathon. Three 16 is good anyways.

Yes, let's just be, real. And, three 16 on, fumes is crazy fast. So congrats.

Rebecca Roush: And then let's see, after that me and my husband got married like three weeks after that and it was like January, 2020.

Chris Detzel: How long were y'all together before you did? I'm just being curious and nosy.

Yeah,

Rebecca Roush: we actually met during that summer of the internship and it's funny about like running brings you all the people in your life and I feel like most of our friends are runners are. The running community. So we had met, he was interning at the same company as I was. We were at this like happy hour that they were posting and all these people were like, oh, what's the next bar we're gonna go to?

And then me and my husband were like, we didn't know each other at the time. We were like, of course. Oh gosh, we're going to sleep. Like we gotta get up to go for a run in the morning. 'cause he ran at a different college. And so we were the only lame ones We joked that weren't going to another bar with everyone else.

We had to go home so we could get our night's rest. And

Chris Detzel: then he just then asked, that's where you met him, and then he asked you out? That's where I

Rebecca Roush: met. [00:20:00] Yeah. He waited three weeks to message me. So after that. I waited and then three weeks later he finally messaged me and then asked me where I like to run.

You were run. Were waiting for him

Chris Detzel: to message you that, so that's interesting.

Rebecca Roush: I was okay. I was waiting. It's

Chris Detzel: that's a long time to wait.

Rebecca Roush: It was. I thought he wasn't interesting. Did you

Chris Detzel: see him at all before that? Like in a run or af before that, three weeks, nothing

Rebecca Roush: then.

No. But we had heard like there was a big, there was. We both work at pwc, so there's like a big intern group and we had heard, I think we both heard he had heard of me 'cause we're like, oh, there's another college runner. So then we both kinda heard of each other and then made the connection at that of oh, that's that person.

But yeah, I waited like That's pretty cool. A long time after that

Chris Detzel: running brings people together. It does. That's how I met my wife through running.

Rebecca Roush: Oh, that's cool. A year

Chris Detzel: later we started dating. I waited a while. That's a long time. A year is a long time. We were both kind of dating others, yeah. And the other thing is, I wasn't looking to date somebody when I was running, yeah. It just does because if you think about it, you and your [00:21:00] husband, from my understanding, he's a big time runner as well, and did extremely well at Boston, I think. And the training that you all have to do together the amount of running you have to do and now you have a baby is.

Having somebody to understand that you have to go out there and he has to go out there it's yeah, I gotta watch the baby. And he's yeah, I gotta watch the baby. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's yeah. Just the way it is. We gotta get out running. And so not a lot of people understand that For sure.

Rebecca Roush: It's like you puts us in a bad mood if we don't get it. We're both like, you need to get your run.

Chris Detzel: Yeah, exactly how you want. We both get it. Okay. Okay. So now I was just curious. And it's cool I asked because now I know that running brought you two together in a Yeah, in some ways. So that was pretty cool.

Rebecca Roush: That was pretty neat. Let's see. So after Dallas, then we did, I'm trying to think, the India app, COVID. So got married 2020. We said we had the last party of the year, first and last. So we luckily got in our wedding before COVID. And then, so I feel like during that we didn't really sign up for anything.

I think we're both, there wasn't really

Chris Detzel: anything to sign up anyway, so

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. And we didn't want it to be canceled, so we're like, just [00:22:00] some virtuals just ran for fun at the time. And then we did Indianapolis Marathon. Wait, did you find

Chris Detzel: yourself during COVID like running more often or was it just kinda, oh, we'll just do whatever, or what was your mindset at first?

Rebecca Roush: We went through, my husband did like a random, he was like, I'm gonna run a hundred miles in a week one time. Like where he is, just it happens, he is let's just do it for fun. So I feel like he went through that and I was just, we got a dog in May of, right after COVID started.

So then we'd have to run separately 'cause our dog like pooped all over. So you know what it's psych

Chris Detzel: have a kit,

Rebecca Roush: except this has lasted longer than the dog. Yeah. Before we had a couple months we'd have to run separate with the dog. Yeah, longer. Kinda went through phases. We went through phases

Chris Detzel: not grown up anytime soon.

Yeah.

Rebecca Roush: We've got a lot of ears.

Chris Detzel: Yeah.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. I don't, we went through phases of just different, like we'd still run with friends on the weekends, I feel like, for a long run. And then, or not many people will say we didn't. And yeah, I don't know. We kind went through phases of like more running and then less running or random challenges or [00:23:00] something,

Chris Detzel: yeah. I think I ran more the first few months. Then I was like, I didn't never stop running, but I was like, okay, I don't really, I don't get this I'm too I'm just need to see people. Yes. Same. Yes. And, and it was probably good that like my wife and I both work at home.

And we have a tiny condo. But, we've been doing it for years and years. So CO for us, COVID wasn't that big of a deal, because we just we're used to always being close to each other. So there are a lot of couples that just couldn't make it, yeah.

Rebecca Roush: That's hard.

I

Chris Detzel: do think that running helps too. Just you get out and run. I get out and run.

Rebecca Roush: Yes. So he probably got tired of me. We were in like a, it's almost, I think it's technically a one bedroom with a study, so it was two bedroom. But yeah, we were in like a tiny apartment then we were both like working from home.

We were like, and then we were just running together. I was like, we were like, it was kinda like the never ending honeymoon, but it was also hard.

Chris Detzel: It just, it helps, I think we were stuck

Rebecca Roush: with each other right after we got married a lot. Yeah.

Chris Detzel: Hopefully it obviously brought you two closer, for sure. Yeah. All right, so you didn't run like, [00:24:00] all right, you ran Indianapolis, but for the second time, were you, like before that, were you doing any kinda, halves or, it's a good question.

Black days where it's just, I'm training for this next marathon and why Indianapolis?

Rebecca Roush: I feel like we did, I know we did a 5K back in my hometown and we won, so that was fun. Just like going back to my hometown, just like something random. I don't really remember many. I feel like I always focus heavily on like the marathon, like training and then halfs normally come in just in between,

Chris Detzel: just to train for the full, how fast can I go? It's a good training session kind of thing.

Rebecca Roush: For sure. Okay. So yeah, I guess Indie was the next one. Only reason why we signed up for that was our, we had some friends from the TTT group that I mentioned that were like, oh, it's such a great course. I think they had already ran it the year be, I don't know, a year or two before or something.

And they were like super great. It's flat and yeah, it was awesome. I don't know if you've heard about it or ran it, but it's oh yeah.

Chris Detzel: I've never run it, but I signed up. I was supposed to run it this last year. Cool. Didn't, yeah. I was gonna do, half my wife's gonna do the full and she got injured, so we just didn't go.

Rebecca Roush: [00:25:00] Yeah, it's a good one where like we stayed at the hotel and then you could just like almost like roll outta bed and you're at the starting line. So it was logistically like very easy and it's I think like a big loop and I don't know, the weather was great. Pretty flat, so it was good. Any person that's looking for a good race, I feel like that's a good one.

But yeah, I went into that one. Knowing my first marathon, I went out way too hard for the first bit. This time I was like, okay, I'm gonna go out with the three 10 Pacers and then try to cut down. So I did that and like I had told myself, I'm gonna try to run a 3 0 6, and that's what I ran. So I was like pretty happy.

I was like perfectly executed, 10 minute pr. So I was very happy with that. And that time I feel like I'd pre prepped on my nutrition a lot more at the time. So I was like, okay, like pretty solid.

Chris Detzel: That's a very solid pr So

Rebecca Roush: yeah, I was super happy with that

Chris Detzel: And a very solid number two race.

True. It's almost under three.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. So that's where I was like, started being like, okay, maybe I can go under three. But the next one we signed up for. Did you

Chris Detzel: ever start thinking about Boston or anything like [00:26:00] that with that 3 0 6, or was it like I don't even know what that is, or, what was your thinking?

Rebecca Roush: So I forgot about this. Boston I was thinking about, but I had gotten into, in 2020 they had picked me as the female for the the Sendai International Half Marathon. I forgot about that. So that was supposed to be in May of 2020. And so the Japan American Society picks like a male and a female to go and represent Dallas in this like Sendai International Half Marathon.

And they have like different sister cities. It's in Sendai, Japan. So it's I was wondering

Chris Detzel: if that, I've heard of that. I know a guy that went there this year.

Rebecca Roush: Cool Mon.

Chris Detzel: Yeah. Monte?

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. Oh, he just told me about his experience.

Chris Detzel: Yeah. Yeah.

Rebecca Roush: I just saw him on Saturday.

Chris Detzel: He was telling me all kinds of stuff and he was, oh, we gotta get this thing on the podcast.

And I was like, yeah, maybe, let's do it. Yes.

Rebecca Roush: It's super amazing. Jennifer Pope went to last year. So yeah, there's a bunch of it's been going on I think for like over 20 or 25 years. But a super cool experience. So I got selected in 2020, so that's actually what I was, I forgot that I was [00:27:00] training for that.

Whenever COVID happened, it was supposed to be in May of 2020, and then that got canceled. And so every year after that we just kept thinking maybe it'll be the next year. 'cause they just told us, oh, it's just not gonna happen this year. So I think. I kept putting off Boston or Boston is the back of my mind, but I kept putting it off 'cause it was supposed to be in May and so I just kept thinking, oh, okay, I'll prioritize that.

But that didn't end up happening till 2023. So it like You did do

Chris Detzel: it.

Rebecca Roush: I did do it. It was incredible. Okay. It was wow. Absolutely incredible. An amazing experience. They like start you with the elites and I don't know, they, you get these I don't know. Monty said they weren't doing it this year, but we got these jerseys that said Dallas and then it said in Japanese under it, like they said it in Japanese of Dallas.

So people be cheering you on and saying it and in Japanese is so cool, say in

Chris Detzel: Japanese or

Rebecca Roush: I can't, I know. Sorry, I put you on the spot. I know, right? I'm like no, not

Chris Detzel: even gonna try.

Rebecca Roush: I very one or two words.

Chris Detzel: Alright.

Rebecca Roush: But yeah, that was super cool. So yeah, I think with [00:28:00] Boston I think I like delayed that based on thinking back because of that race.

Yeah. So I did, let's see, going back to 2021 Indie after that, we did grandmas in 2022. So

Chris Detzel: you're only doing one a year then. Yeah, I think I was

Rebecca Roush: through then I was And you're not getting

Chris Detzel: injured right now?

Rebecca Roush: Yeah, true. So not getting injured. That's what I'm trying to. Avoid during it running like four days a week normally.

And was, I think we talked about last time doing like strength training and cross training on the other days. So that helped. So yeah, we trained really hard for grandma's and then we ended up having my, one of my husband's family members passed, so we had a funeral on the Friday, the day before Grandma's marathon in Saturday in Austin, Texas.

So grandma's is in like Duluth, Minnesota. We thought, oh no, we're gonna have to miss it. And there's no other summer marathon, so it's in June. That isn't

Chris Detzel: gonna stop you.

Rebecca Roush: Yes. And it's like such hard training too, like going into June. So yeah, we were like, okay. My husband figured it out and there's no hotels either.

So like you sign up for grandma's and all the hotels are booked, I think gets sold out pretty early [00:29:00] too. And we had planned on originally staying with one of my friends who lives like, I think she lives like an hour away. And then we start calculating it and we're like, even if we get, we decided anyways, we decided to drive to Austin.

Left the car with his parents that who also went to Austin. I. Then we flew to Minnesota and then drove there. And then somehow my husband randomly found this hotel. We hadn't been able to find a hotel before that, and I guess probably someone canceled or something. But last minute, found a hotel, got in at like midnight and made the race the next morning.

So it wasn't really a great I feel like we had a really good training block before then. But then, it was it's always some something happens. I feel like most races you just have to overcome. So that happened and then we both were just like. I think we were just trying to have an okay race at that point.

So I feel like I went in pretty conservative with that one. I just went with the same race plan as last time of indie. Okay, I'm gonna go out the three 10 pacer and then try to cut down. And I got a 3 0 5, which I was really happy with. Super happy. But I think I was like, at that point I'm like, okay, like I've gotta train, [00:30:00] change my racing plan.

My college coach once told me like in college. I would go out to like my first year or two, he was like, you're going out too slow where you're too far behind your competitors. If you wanna be in the race, you've gotta gut it out at the beginning a little bit. So through that, I'm thinking in my head if I actually want like a bigger pr I'm gonna have to like go back to my first strategy that kind of punched me in the face of Dallas, of I'm gonna have to at least gut it out a little harder at the beginning to be able to get like a bigger pr.

Chris Detzel: Are you running with anybody besides you and your husband at the time? Are you running with the group or what does that look like?

Rebecca Roush: Yes. So at, I think the TT T group I'd talked about dissolved around like 20. That's right. 21,

Chris Detzel: okay.

Rebecca Roush: So then we started gonna the White Rock co-op for a while on Saturdays.

And then we think it was like. Either 2021 or 22 2, we started going to train Pegasus, and then in 20 22, 23, then we were doing train Pegasus and completely sloth. So I feel like we've merged into all of the, all the groups around. But yes, we lived in Dallas, I think [00:31:00] until right after grandma's marathon too.

So it was easier for us to get to the runs through grandma's and then we move to Rockwall.

Chris Detzel: Okay.

Rebecca Roush: Like the summer's a pretty fast

Chris Detzel: rock or I think they're still around. There's some Rockwall folks there I think, that get together.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah, there's a few Rockwall folks. I feel like most of our, it's hard 'cause we had a lot of our friends too in Dallas, so we come back and we're like, oh, like we miss our friends in Dallas.

So yeah, now we still through the, even after we moved and we started training, I guess Boston was at Boston 2023. I guess that's the one after that. I would drive in on Thursdays, Thursday mornings before work. I'd work from home, but I'd drive into Dallas and then come back and I was just, it was a lot, like I'd do it on Thursdays and then Saturdays wasn't as bad 'cause there's not as much traffic.

Chris Detzel: Saturday's a lot easier, but Thursdays would just, yeah, traffic's probably not that bad, but I mean from that early, but still it's just, it was a pain. Gotta get there. It was a pain. Traffic was really,

Rebecca Roush: It depending, like it wasn't too bad, but even coming home, you're just like. There'd be like a little bit, and I was just like, it was just, I [00:32:00] was just exhausted by the time I'd get home and okay, time to work now.

And is

Chris Detzel: this at least a 30 minute drive?

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. Or longer at least. Depends where

Chris Detzel: You are in Rockwall, but

Rebecca Roush: But that was, it was helpful. 'cause Yeah, like you said, we, I really like training with other people and like I was thinking, okay, Thursdays are tempo runs and then Saturdays are long runs.

Like it turned into Thursdays. I was trying to keep up at the time, we're going to train Pegasus and I was just trying to keep up with whoever's in front of me and then. Saturdays. Yeah. It was like always had a plan of what I was gonna do, but it's try to stick with, the faster people. Okay.

It was always super helpful in having them pull me along.

Chris Detzel: So you did, grandmas did okay. You got PR still, which is you're pring every single time so far. Yes. Three times in a row. Which is way, you've front some smart races is all I'm saying is like you've done very well, even the first one.

'cause the first one's always, whatever.

Rebecca Roush: It just happens to me. I

Chris Detzel: tell people like. A lot of people aren't like you, for example, they don't. You've never run a marathon, so that is that, right? No matter how skilled of a runner you are, you have some thoughts and ideas and probably halfway a planned, [00:33:00] but you didn't, do everything perfectly.

Not to say you ever will, but you did extremely well and you continued to even get better. Yeah. And so far you really haven't been injured.

Rebecca Roush: Yes. So that was huge. Even just kinda learning how to not get injured post college. Yeah.

Chris Detzel: Talk about that a bit. We slightly talked about not being injured, but we really haven't talked about your training regime in a way, like from after college, from starting marathons all the way to doing three marathons without a, basically getting injured. What were the changes you made?

Rebecca Roush: I think some of the changes I made, in college you're running with people every single day and you are just trying to keep up like, so I feel like in college, for me, it felt like every day was a race.

Even on the easy days, we kind. Or I talked about it with my coach at one point, it was like at least one person say you have a speed day, it's someone's really great day. So you're always trying to keep up with someone's really great day, essentially. So it was hard 'cause you just felt like you always had to be on.

I felt since college I've learned, take the recovery days easy. Like really [00:34:00] easy. If your legs are really hurting, slow down.

Chris Detzel: Go 11 minute miles if you have to. Yeah. 10 minutes, not, whatever. Yes. It doesn't matter.

Rebecca Roush: Recover. Like recover. And so I feel like I take my easy days a lot easier now.

And so that's been like honestly game changing for me. And then, yeah, I swapped at one point from elliptic Cling to biking. My PT he runs as well. Jason Carmen, he's super awesome and my know does like a lot of trap ones and cool different races, but he had been my same PT and I'd gone back to him for like small injuries since college and he was like, you need to really do biking.

'cause it like builds like the muscle around 'cause I'm still having like knee issues. And so once I swapped to biking too, I feel like that helped. I don't know. And doing and keeping up with my strength. He's you gotta stop.

Chris Detzel: So doing cross-training is key.

Rebecca Roush: Yes. Cross-training. So when you

Chris Detzel: cycle, what are you doing?

Are you getting out outside and doing it or are you just doing it inside? Okay.

Rebecca Roush: Just inside on my peloton. And I feel like I don't do whenever pre-baby. I feel like this is, whenever was more serious. Amy

Chris Detzel: Lyles? Yes. She's a big time Peloton.

Rebecca Roush: Really

Chris Detzel: freak. Yeah.

Rebecca Roush: Okay. I feel like amateur.[00:35:00]

I'll have to talk to her about that. You should reach

Chris Detzel: out to her.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah. I don't know

Chris Detzel: if you could friend her on the Peloton. I don't know what that looks like, but maybe you can friend her or something.

Rebecca Roush: I'm definitely an amateur. I've had it for two years, but I've, I'm an amateur on the Peloton.

Chris Detzel: I don't think she is she's talked really serious about it.

Rebecca Roush: That's awesome. So yeah, I guess the biking and then strength training and I just use the Peloton, like there's like strength for runners.

Chris Detzel: Yeah.

Rebecca Roush: And it's super great. Like I had my PT gimme some exercises and they'll be similar to what they have in there. So it's nice. It's like you can pick a 10 minute one, a 15, a 20, or a 30.

And then it just helps me just to get it done because I think sometimes if I just have 'em written down, I feel like I'm like. End up wasting time and I'm like, I need to be on the schedule 20 minutes and done. So those have been super helpful and it's feels like it targets the right areas for runners.

So that's pretty cool. I enjoy doing

Chris Detzel: this. Oh, I like that. When, so it's, the Peloton does some strength stuff too. Are you doing weights or core or what? Yeah,

Rebecca Roush: there's, there'll be like middle, I think it's called like strength for runners [00:36:00] and then, or core for runners. Okay. And they have, yeah, they'll have like weights.

On Peloton

Chris Detzel: stuff. Like you don't get on the bike, you're doing weight stuff.

Rebecca Roush: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Okay. They're like little, just 20, 30 minute drink classes. So Cool. Yeah. I enjoy doing those. It keeps me going and I can do different ones.

Chris Detzel: Instead of going out, you can do it in a group ish, right?

But instead you can do it at home.

Which you don't have to drive somewhere and get it done. Yes. Like I was doing Orange Theory for a long time. And it was pretty decent because it was a group of people, but I have to drive all the way there. It's not that far, but, yeah. It still, I gotta get in the car and then I gotta worry about traffic maybe coming back a little bit, but yeah, that sounds pretty cool.

Rebecca Roush: It's definitely manageable with the baby. He's napping and I'm like, oh, gotta get in a quick workout. 20 minutes.

Chris Detzel: We'll talk about that in a minute. The baby?

Yeah.

Rebecca Roush: Okay. Yeah, I think that's supposed to, I feel like taking the easier days, easy cross training and then strength training has been pretty

Chris Detzel: Okay. Huge. And you do that two or three times a week? Yes.

Rebecca Roush: I shoot for two times, at least two times a week on strength. And then, if I can [00:37:00] do three run four days a week and then cross training, I feel like now post baby, it's okay, if I can get the bike in on one or two those days, that's great.

Lately. It's that's the thing that's slid off. But I feel like whenever I'm like, seriously on training, gonna slow, yeah.

Chris Detzel: I think that's, something's gotta go. Yeah. How many days, like you said you're running four days, like at your peak, what's the, what are you hit mileage wise?

Because you said you're not a high mileage kind of person. What are you trying, what's your goal usually

Rebecca Roush: feel like my max. Before the baby, whenever I only ran for 34 days to train for a marathon I was hitting like 50, around 50 max because if I had like a 20 to 22 mile long run on the weekend, then the, I was pretty much only getting the rest in three runs and then normally two of those are harder.

I felt like I, we were running pretty hard long runs, having an easy day of running. And then like a tempo run. And then depending on a Tuesday would either be like hills. Most people would do similar to this, but the the hills or the fart look. But if my legs were dying too much from the [00:38:00] long run, then I would just take that one easy too.

Chris Detzel: Okay. Okay. No, I was just curious. Yeah. So you did grandma's, what was after that?

Rebecca Roush: Grandma's and then the next one was Boston. So grandma's was 2022 to Boston. Okay. Yeah. So the Boston 2023, that one was pretty proud or it's a hard core. We talked about it. We already talked about it before. It's a hard course, but that one I did go into being like, okay, I'm gonna go out faster.

Kinda like I talked about. So I don't know exactly what I went through in the half, but I got a 3 0 4, so I went from 3 0 6 to 3 0 5 to 3 0 4. But that one I did go out harder on the first half. So I was proud of myself 'cause I did wanna do self three.

Chris Detzel: Most people do anyways.

Rebecca Roush: Yes. Yeah. With the downhill True at the beginning

Chris Detzel: it's a lot it's a mental kind of mind, messes up me your mind a little bit, but it's that downhill.

Three or four,

Rebecca Roush: yeah,

Chris Detzel: you're just very consistent, yes.

Rebecca Roush: So that was good, but slightly disappointed that it didn't hit. Sub three, but it was like, it's okay. It's okay. There'll be another one. And then, so that was 2023. And then Senda ended up happening in June. It's normally in [00:39:00] May, but they had the G six or Gson meeting in Japan, something like that.

Yeah. So that year they had it in June, and I think we found out in February. And at that point I was like, I'm keeping Boston. Like I waited a long time to do this. So then I did that half. That half was crazy. There, there was like six weeks in between, and I'm not good at doing races like back to back.

Some of these other people love racing every weekend. I think post college is I don't like racing all the time. So it was six weeks later

Chris Detzel: brings back college days.

Rebecca Roush: Yes. Playing too much racing. Exactly.

Chris Detzel: And

Rebecca Roush: it was, it started at 10:00 AM but the sun rose there at four in the morning, so it was like the equivalent of running at like a 1:00 PM or 2:00 PM here in the summer.

Chris Detzel: Oh, it's even, yeah, it was, you did the half. Got it. Huh. Really, it's on the ground way. Oh my gosh. Did they at least have, like doors to did you have to hold onto something? Oh wow. It's hold on and everything and then kinda balance. Yeah. You didn't get it. Oh my god.

Yeah, you did. [00:40:00] Heat, humidity.

Okay. Uhhuh, how long did you stay there? Because did you make a vacation out of it? Okay. That's pretty cool. Wow, that's awesome. Would you do it again? I hear that. I hear the Japanese are very nice, like when you go and super kind and helpful. If they can be, I saw these earbuds yesterday. As a matter of fact, you put 'em on and you put 'em to the language that you wanna hear if somebody's talking and it will put it into English.

Yeah. I swear to God I him online. You know how something just pops up in your feed or whatever, and I was like, what is this? I looked and then I Googled it, just to see if there's other things available like that. So yeah, it's like a, like small headphones you put on, kinda like the earbuds that you have, and it translates and says it, and translates it for you, the language.

And I'm like, it's only like 30. And I was like, I know. Is maybe I should get a better one. [00:41:00] No you don't. They speak French, English and or German. Most of the time they can speak English. The French sometimes don't want to, but that's awesome. Don't worry. I like, you don't, for the most part you'll be fine.

They will speak English and you're with family and stuff. Nobody, somebody will figure it out. No, really. So the reason I'm. Keeping this going a little bit just is because I think it's very intriguing. But my son, when he graduates, he's, he'll be in ninth grade coming up. But I told him if, this is a weird thing, but if he doesn't, if he goes to college, he's got a, he can't get somebody pregnant and he can't do drugs, and I'll take him on any trip you wants.

Yeah. It's incentive. 'cause we talk about this all the time, and he knows the rules. I've said it several times, but right now he wants to go to Japan because I was telling him there's this Pokemon cars and things like that you can do 'cause it's all, that's where it originated, and he's been in kinda into Pokemon for a long time. He's not as much right now, but sometimes he is. But the point is. Japan's [00:42:00] kind of one, it's hard to get there. And then two is, it's a completely different language. They really don't speak English at all. And so you have to figure that out, and so that's why I thought yeah, that's what it, no, he will be, wow, we're gonna do it. Hey, we're. No, we're gonna go, we are definitely gonna go and this is fun. So you've got me look wherever he wants to go, it's, we're gonna go, we were gonna go to France and some other places, but then he was like, I've been there a lot, and so I was like, okay, we could go to Japan.

It has this thing Mario Kart, all this stuff. Kinda what you said. He, yeah, maybe I'll do that. And so he's been thinking about it, so we'll see. Alright, so you do this international half marathon. In Japan and you take a two week vacation there, or at least a week, but it was two weeks vacation.

You have the run in there, so it's cool. Didn't have a great race, that's okay. It's hot, nasty, threw up a little, had to squat out a toilet, whatever. That's part of running, right? If you don't tell those stories, then you know, then what is running, so there's always weird bathroom [00:43:00] stories anyways.

Yeah. Most of the time. Does your husband run these two? All the same ones? If you sign up, he signs up kind of thing. Okay. How fast is he? What's his, is he faster than you or, I don't know. Because you're, let's finish the Chicago thing. So he's not that much faster than college.

I think that, something my wife always tells me is, 'cause I could beat her in almost every race, right? But Marathon, no, and we're very close. We can run together, and but. A lot of speed, right? So when you think of the, but in general, women can just outlast, and can just go that longer speed at the, can go at the speed for a longer time.

And I think that's true, or there's some truth to that, but anyways, the point is like he's faster and I understand what you're saying. He probably has more talent than what he's shown, but right now yours pretty close. So he's not as competitive as you then.

Okay. That was nice. That's awesome. You hit under three. What, you know when you go, when you went into that race, [00:44:00] were you like, okay, I am gonna go all out and I'm gonna figure and I'm just gonna, what was your mindset and thinking? Yeah. That's about, yeah. That's perfect. Congratulations. That was really awesome.

I'm fast as you've run all these other marathons, you've got a way better time than 2 57, I think. Can you Definitely. You'll eventually, how old are you? You're pretty young too. Yeah, you're super young. You've got a great 10 years to really, 11 years to really figure it out, like even longer.

Look, but as in pr, prs, I. I think the sky's a limit. That's awesome. No doubt. What was that like? How did that kind of affect running? I'm gonna do that too. Really? Okay. I've, for nine months, I've gotta basically not run No way. Oh, can't do it. Everything's good. How do you know? You never had a baby?

No cruise. Like you did this at the cruise. Oh no, Rebecca, that's inconvenient. [00:45:00] Just joking. Sounds like he was hungry. Get on my back. Can you do that? No, I can't. Okay. Alright. Wow. Whole trip. Yeah. Mean, dang, sorry. 20 weeks later. Alright. I guess I'll listen. I have a baby inside of me. I just need a win. Hey, I'm glad that you did that.

All right. If there's something that you would tell women that are pregnant, going through similar things that are want to exercise, run, is there anything that you would say that, some lessons learned? Some. Tips, tricks or some thoughts? I don't know. I love that you said that. And the small wins I think is always the key is maybe running's not the win.

Maybe walking is the win. Maybe something else is. So that, and that's the mindset you have to change. That's, I love that. That's really nice. So you have this baby finally? Yeah. She has three kids and they're all pretty young. She has obstacle that [00:46:00] she. I think that's part of it.

Maybe it's still having that same mindset, Rebecca, like little wins, maybe they're bigger each time, but two or three months isn't that long. You've already been waiting for a long time anyways. After you have a baby, it's not like all of a sudden I can run it. It, I don't think it works that way.

Wow. Almost a.

I'm sure you know the birthday is gonna be huge for you as well. That's right, yeah. Yeah. It goes fast though, really fast. It's funny because my son, he's 14 now, and just literally six months ago or let's say last summer, so last summer, he was really short. And I have pictures of it.

He's kinda, he got these big cheeks and stuff, and short and just whatever. And now he's tall, like he's my height. 'cause before he was at my chin, literally he is at my chin. And then he just, grew several inches and he now continues to. But the amount that they [00:47:00] grow, obviously from, but just at different times it's crazy to watch and see, 'cause I knew I would always take these pictures knowing like he was fishing one time. Now I show him that pick, and this was this last summer. Now I show him that pick. He's said, oh my God. Like it's a complete difference. It's crazy what it is today. Enjoy each moment, because, take him out for runs or whatever.

Do you have a boy or girl? Sorry, boy, what's his name? George. Oh, I love it, George. Yeah. Love it. That's great. Take George out for, I'm sure y'all do strolls and things like that. There's this guy, I dunno if this podcast, but have you seen him? He's out there with his, I don't know if they're too big now, but I, he recently did it probably two months ago, three. He's out there in the stroller just running, he's probably, high sixteens, low seventeens kind of runner, but now he's running with the babies.

He has two, I think, not at the same time, but one at a [00:48:00] time, I think. And he'll still get, nineteens or twenties, he's sitting there passing her. Yeah, it's really fast for having a stroller and a baby in it. And he's sitting there talking to the baby, going the stars play tonight and they're doing this thing, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So anyways. Yeah, and you'll have to do that sometime. Just do a little Five Ks. I wouldn't do a marathon or half. So you recently did a marathon. Is that your first one back? I think it was, yeah. I think we talked about this, but let's talk about it in this episode. Okay. Five hours later you come back.

That's a lot of managing. Yeah. I didn't feel like running anyways. It's too much. Adds two more hours. Plus you wanna hang out and have coffee maybe, I guess you have to compromise on some of those things. Fair enough. A little bit. It's a lot of stuff going on that we can, we'll never know. Don't worry.

I think we all worry about that more so than the kid does, 'cause the kids have no idea. Especially at eight months or nine, whatever it was at the time. 10. Can't pop a bunch of milk and then just put it in the freezer or something. How to do that. Okay. Insane. You did, but you know what? You did it.

That's pretty [00:49:00] crazy. If you put your mind to something like, like you did, you make it happen, you did it. You have your husband's training, you're training, you have a baby, you decide not to do it. But then you were like, you know what? I might regret it if I don't. 'cause some friend said something, and you made it happen.

That's amazing. Just that story to me because it just, it's just a mindset thing. I think I talked about this in one of the things, if you put your mind to something and you and you finagle it a little bit, you didn't get the best training that you wanted, but you still gotta block out a few blocks out and got a decent, training cycle out and did the best you could and you still did pretty well.

Let's talk about that real quick. Yeah. My son had that once. Yeah. My daughter, one of them. Anyways, it's like this real deep cough. Yeah. And it's scary. Yeah. Your husband was crying. He was like, oh, I can't do this. I'm sure. Look, you've gone through almost a year of it, and you've figured out a lot of stuff, you're gonna continue to learn a lot and figure things out. So don't worry, [00:50:00] there's more to come. Yeah, but that's the exciting part. It's just it's not easy, you'll figure it out. What? All right, so you get to the marathon, finally. Tell me about it. Did you say Snapchat?

She's on Snapchat. No way. That's great. Is that still popular? For a minute, but I not, I didn't do it for long. You're little you're older than my daughter by five years or so, so it was a big thing when she was younger, and so maybe that's just the generation anyways.

Yeah, no, I think that's awesome. I think that's pretty cool that your mom does it how'd you do? Let's, we gotta talk about that. Went to the marathon and that's time. Considering all the things that you went through and the training blocks and everything else. And so a, I don't know if this is a dumb question, maybe it is 'cause I'm a guy, but when you talk about postpartum, what are all the things you deal with through postpartum?

'cause I don't know. Yeah, you just had a baby. I get that. But are there things that you could share that, [00:51:00] makes things hard like that, running a marathon of things, is it just your body, it just has to adjust and it's just, broken down a bit or, that kind of stuff.

I don't know. Yeah, you worry about a lot of things, just trying to, okay, so there's, all right, so you mentioned a lot of things. So it's emotionally was the hard part. It's. Also breastfeeding is a big thing, especially 'cause it does probably sap a lot of that energy out.

And body sounds like your body was pretty much fine. I mean I'm sure there's some of that though, obviously just through the first five or six months and I appreciate you telling me that. I just, 'cause I. I figure it's stuff like that. But that's more interesting to me is because we've had a lot of women on that have had babies, and they talk about postpartum, but I never really asked, the detailed que I probably should have.

I just didn't think about it. And I said, next time I'm gonna ask Rebecca that, yeah. You have a good network around you and I think that's probably important. Not just your friends, but your family and things like that. But even then, like you said, it's still, you feel that way, it feels like [00:52:00] that. All right, so last kind of thoughts here is what's next for you? It's summertime now. Are you thinking any, what? What's your thinking that's next? Great. That's gonna be tough with the baby. That's part of the learning experience. You're gonna be fine.

Just know that it's gonna be fine. Yes. It's just more inconvenient than anything, to be honest. That's the only thing that is, the hard part is the inconvenience of all the shit that. You have to take with you and think about, but the baby will be fine. George's gonna be, yeah, he might cry some, you just have to deal with it.

Sorry. That's just the baby, all right. Hey, I'm sure you'll do that. Was it Maddie or somebody saying they're doing CIM? Yeah. So maybe that's the one you think about, right? I. You still have a baby to think about and logistics and all this stuff to try to figure out.

But if you're gonna do Houston, Houston's probably a little easier 'cause you could drive. It's a great race. Like I've done the half, several times and my wife's done the full. Yeah, it is [00:53:00] amazing. It's a great race. Super flat. It's a pr, every, it's gonna be warm.

It is in January, but in the mornings it's great. Sometimes, obviously in the evenings it gets a little warmer, but last year, this year was not this hot at all. It was like wind day and cold as heck. Yeah, which is rare. That is super rare. That doesn't ever happen. It doesn't seem. But it did that time, but that's awesome, Rebecca.

I appreciate it. Is there something that I just didn't ask and I probably should have asked? I felt like we covered quite a bit. Thank you. Yeah. Person. I appreciate you getting on and telling your story. And look, from what I could tell, it's been an hour and 20 minutes, and so we went. Pretty long and I think that's really great.

You had a lot of stuff to, to talk about. You've had a great journey. So thank you for coming on Rebecca. So thank you everyone for tuning in to another DFW Running Talk. I'm Chris Zel and Rebecca Rausch was our guest. Thanks Rebecca.