Marathon Dad: How Jonathan Brower Finds Speed Between 3:50 AM Runs and Bedtime Stories
In this engaging episode of DFW Running Talk, host Chris Detzel interviews Jonathan Brower, a structural engineer and accomplished runner who's known for casually passing other racers while pushing a stroller. The conversation begins with Chris recounting how Jonathan once passed him during a 5K at White Rock while pushing his baby in a stroller and discussing the Stars game.
Jonathan shares his unique running journey, which began not as a passion but as training for tennis. After getting burned out on tennis during grad school in 2012, he discovered running as a standalone activity and quickly found success, running his first marathon in Chicago with an impressive 3:06 despite minimal structured training.
The conversation traces Jonathan's growth as a runner: joining Dallas Running Club, running New York Marathon, and eventually achieving a breakthrough 2:58 in Portland after following a more structured training approach. His running adventures include a rainy Boston Marathon experience where he laughed at the absurdity of the terrible conditions, and a triumphant return to New York in 2023 where he PR'd with a 2:57 despite balancing training with raising two young children.
Jonathan discusses his data-driven coaching philosophy and how becoming a parent transformed his approach to training - emphasizing consistency over perfection and the importance of "getting comfortable being uncomfortable." The episode concludes with Jonathan's involvement in the Form Follows Fitness 5K, which perfectly combines his love of architecture and running, and his role in encouraging colleagues to participate in the event.
Creators and Guests
Host
Chris Detzel
Chris Detzel is the passionate host and creator of "DFW Running Talk," the premier podcast dedicated to showcasing the vibrant running community across the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex. Since launching the show in October 2024, Chris has established himself as a central voice in North Texas running culture, conducting in-depth conversations with elite athletes, coaches, race directors, and inspiring everyday runners who define the region's diverse running scene. As both interviewer and active participant in the DFW running community, Chris brings an authentic perspective shaped by years of personal running experience. While he describes himself as primarily a half marathon runner rather than a marathoner - citing the extensive training commitment and unpredictability of marathon race day - his deep knowledge of running culture spans the full spectrum from 5Ks to ultramarathons. His preference for half marathons stems from their balance of challenge and accessibility, allowing him to race monthly without the intensive training demands of longer distances. Chris's connection to elite running runs through his family - his wife Lea Ivy is an accomplished marathoner who has completed the Boston Marathon 12 times consecutively, achieving a personal best of 3:14 at age 45. This personal connection to high-level competition, combined with his own running journey, gives Chris unique insight into both the elite and recreational sides of the sport. He often travels to Boston to support Lea's racing and has become part of the broader running community that gathers around major events like the Boston Marathon. Through DFW Running Talk, Chris has created more than just a podcast - he's built a platform that celebrates the depth and diversity of North Texas running talent. His interviews reveal the stories behind local legends, from sub-3:00 marathoners to innovative coaches, from race directors creating memorable experiences to everyday runners achieving extraordinary personal transformations. The show has featured conversations with accomplished athletes like Shantel Cloud (sub-3:00 marathoner), Travis Dowd (Dallas Marathon winner), and Mimi Smith (Olympic Trials competitor), alongside community builders and running industry professionals. What sets Chris apart as a host is his ability to connect with guests on multiple levels - as a fellow runner who understands training cycles and race strategy, as a community member invested in the local running scene, and as a skilled interviewer who draws out both technical insights and personal stories. His approach prioritizes authentic conversation over surface-level inspiration, resulting in episodes that offer genuine value to runners of all levels. Based in the Dallas area, Chris continues to grow DFW Running Talk's reach across multiple platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube, while maintaining strong connections to local running organizations like Dallas Running Club and participating in the broader Texas running community. His work documents and celebrates a running culture that he believes is "way more badass than it has any right to be."
Guest
Jonathan Brower
Jonathan Brower: Quick Bio Jonathan Brower is a structural engineer and accomplished runner based in Dallas, Texas. Starting his running journey in 2012 after transitioning from competitive tennis, he quickly demonstrated natural talent by running a 3:06 in his first marathon in Chicago. Brower has completed notable marathons including New York (multiple times), Boston, Portland, and Chicago, with a personal best of 2:57. He's known locally for casually passing other runners while pushing his children in a stroller during races. Beyond his personal achievements, Brower serves as a running coach, using a data-driven approach that has helped several runners achieve significant PRs. He's actively involved with the Dallas Running Club and serves on the board of the Architecture and Design Foundation, helping organize the Form Follows Fitness 5K that combines his professional passion for structural engineering with his love of running. As a father of two young sons (born in 2020 and 2022), Brower has adapted his training approach, sometimes starting runs at 3:50 AM to balance family responsibilities with his continued pursuit of running excellence.