The Sub-2:40 Club: DFW's Fastest Marathoners Talk Boston & London
Boston & London Marathon Prep with DFW's Elite Runners
Join host Chris Detzel for an insightful roundtable with six elite DFW-area runners as they prepare for the prestigious Boston and London Marathons. This episode features Brent Woodall, Matt Barron, Aaron Pearson, Eric Bretl, Jennifer Pope, and Mimi Smith - collectively known as "The Sloths" - who share their impressive qualifying times, ambitious race goals, and detailed training strategies.
Listen as these accomplished athletes discuss their personalized training approaches, with weekly mileage ranging from 75-110 miles, and their perspectives on strength training, nutrition, and race-day fueling. The group dives into Boston Marathon course specifics, including the infamous Heartbreak Hill, and offers practical advice for handling everything from mid-race hydration to the unique challenges of Boston's late-morning start time.
Whether you're aiming for a Boston Qualifier or simply curious about high-performance marathon training, this episode provides valuable insights from runners targeting impressive sub-2:40 finish times while balancing careers, families, and everyday life. Don't miss their candid reflections on community support, finding sustainable training approaches, and their post-marathon plans.
Creators and Guests
Host
Chris Detzel
Chris Detzel is the passionate host and creator of "DFW Running Talk," the premier podcast dedicated to showcasing the vibrant running community across the Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex. Since launching the show in October 2024, Chris has established himself as a central voice in North Texas running culture, conducting in-depth conversations with elite athletes, coaches, race directors, and inspiring everyday runners who define the region's diverse running scene. As both interviewer and active participant in the DFW running community, Chris brings an authentic perspective shaped by years of personal running experience. While he describes himself as primarily a half marathon runner rather than a marathoner - citing the extensive training commitment and unpredictability of marathon race day - his deep knowledge of running culture spans the full spectrum from 5Ks to ultramarathons. His preference for half marathons stems from their balance of challenge and accessibility, allowing him to race monthly without the intensive training demands of longer distances. Chris's connection to elite running runs through his family - his wife Lea Ivy is an accomplished marathoner who has completed the Boston Marathon 12 times consecutively, achieving a personal best of 3:14 at age 45. This personal connection to high-level competition, combined with his own running journey, gives Chris unique insight into both the elite and recreational sides of the sport. He often travels to Boston to support Lea's racing and has become part of the broader running community that gathers around major events like the Boston Marathon. Through DFW Running Talk, Chris has created more than just a podcast - he's built a platform that celebrates the depth and diversity of North Texas running talent. His interviews reveal the stories behind local legends, from sub-3:00 marathoners to innovative coaches, from race directors creating memorable experiences to everyday runners achieving extraordinary personal transformations. The show has featured conversations with accomplished athletes like Shantel Cloud (sub-3:00 marathoner), Travis Dowd (Dallas Marathon winner), and Mimi Smith (Olympic Trials competitor), alongside community builders and running industry professionals. What sets Chris apart as a host is his ability to connect with guests on multiple levels - as a fellow runner who understands training cycles and race strategy, as a community member invested in the local running scene, and as a skilled interviewer who draws out both technical insights and personal stories. His approach prioritizes authentic conversation over surface-level inspiration, resulting in episodes that offer genuine value to runners of all levels. Based in the Dallas area, Chris continues to grow DFW Running Talk's reach across multiple platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube, while maintaining strong connections to local running organizations like Dallas Running Club and participating in the broader Texas running community. His work documents and celebrates a running culture that he believes is "way more badass than it has any right to be."
Guest
Aaron Pearson
Aaron Pearson is an accomplished marathoner from the Dallas-Fort Worth area and a valued member of the elite running group "The Sloths." Preparing for his third Boston Marathon, Aaron qualified with a strong 2:40 performance at the 2023 Chicago Marathon and is targeting an ambitious sub-2:35 finish in Boston. Despite being relatively new to competitive distance running—having previously focused on football and basketball—Aaron has quickly established himself as a formidable marathon competitor. With a training philosophy that emphasizes quality over quantity, Aaron incorporates three weekly strength training sessions alongside his running regimen, drawing from his athletic background. Though he maintains a lower weekly mileage (around 70 miles) compared to some of his training partners, he compensates with higher-intensity workouts and strategic long runs. A dedicated family man with two children, Aaron balances his athletic pursuits with his professional and family responsibilities. His approach to running is characterized by his enjoyment of the process and appreciation for the running community. As he puts it, "These are the good old days. We just don't realize it." Beyond his athletic achievements, Aaron has expressed interest in documenting his running journey through vlogging and photography, capturing the memorable moments with his training partners for years to come.
Guest
Brent Woodle
Brent Woodle is one of the fastest masters marathoners in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, with a personal record of 2:28 and recent performances including 2:28:26 at the Indianapolis Marathon and 2:39:05 at the Dallas Marathon. What makes Brent's running career remarkable is that he never ran competitively in high school or college. Originally from Omaha, Nebraska, Brent moved to Dallas 16 years ago to start a career as a software engineer—a position he still holds today. With no friends in his new city and a bucket list goal to run a marathon, he joined every running club he could find, including TNSR, DRCI, and White Rock Running Co-op, where he discovered both a community and a competitive outlet. Brent's approach to marathon training is unconventional and meticulous. He runs twice a day, six days per week, logging 100+ mile weeks during training cycles. His philosophy prioritizes frequency over intensity, believing that multiple shorter runs reduce injury risk while building greater overall fitness. He starts each day with a brisk 20-30 minute walk followed by a workout or easy run, then adds a very easy zone one run in the evening. Beyond the miles, Brent's success comes from attention to detail: eight hours of sleep every night, disciplined nutrition including race-day fueling of up to 900 calories, no alcohol during training blocks, and a stable work-from-home routine that supports consistent training. He's learned through experience about the importance of mental recovery, having battled burnout before the Houston Marathon and discovering that rest periods are essential even for elite athletes. When he's not running, Brent is a dedicated father to his 4-year-old and 6-year-old, balancing elite athletic pursuits with family life. He's been married for nearly 10 years and previously enjoyed running trips with his wife before focusing more on family vacations in recent years. Looking ahead to 2026, Brent plans to race the Paris Marathon in April and return to Chicago—where he set his PR—in the fall, all at age 41. He believes he still has the ability to get in his best shape, proving that consistency, discipline, and smart training can produce elite results well into the masters years. Brent's journey from casual runner to sub-2:30 marathoner demonstrates that competitive excellence doesn't require a youth running background—just dedication, smart training, and the wisdom to know when to push and when to rest.
Guest
Jennifer Pope
Jennifer Pope: Runner Bio Jennifer Pope is an elite marathoner from the Dallas-Fort Worth area who discovered her exceptional running talent during the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite not having a traditional competitive running background, Pope transformed from a recreational soccer player to an Olympic Trials qualifier in just a few years. After beginning serious training in 2020, Pope rapidly progressed to achieve remarkable results, including a personal best marathon time of 2:36:20 at the Houston Marathon in 2022, which secured her Olympic Trials qualification. She won the Indianapolis Marathon in challenging conditions and recently claimed victory at the 2025 Cowtown Half Marathon with an impressive time of 1:18:00. Pope trains with a local running group called "Completely Sloth" and emphasizes the importance of community in her success. Despite facing setbacks with plantar fasciitis and hamstring tendinopathy, she continues to compete at an elite level while maintaining her passion for the sport. Her extraordinary journey demonstrates how untapped potential can emerge at any point in life with dedication, proper training, and a supportive community.
Guest
Matthew Barron
Matt Barron is a sub-elite marathoner based in the DFW area and a member of the local running group known as "The Sloths." He qualified for the 2025 Boston Marathon with an impressive 2:38 finish at the Houston Marathon. A dedicated runner with a strategic approach to training, Matt balances his intense 75-80 mile training weeks with family life and a demanding career. After experiencing a minor injury during training, he's adjusted his Boston goals but remains focused on enjoying the process and community aspect of running. Beyond Boston, Matt plans to run the Dallas Marathon later in the year while continuing to participate in local races. His balanced philosophy toward running emphasizes finding harmony between family, fitness, community, and personal goals.
Guest
Mimi Smith
From graduating undergrad at Wake Forest University in 2019 to moving to Dallas in 2022, I moved a total of eight times because of school/clinical rotations. It's lonely, constantly uprooting, and this was also the case moving to Dallas as I didn't know a soul in the city. I went to a local running store and asked about local running teams, desperate to meet people right away. I found a group of runners who adopted me immediately, even convincing me to sign up for Boston 2023 the first week I started running with them. What I like about this group is we are all very passionate about running, but we are also all very passionate about our professional careers. It was the perfect mix for me as I was completing a physical therapy residency. If it wasn't for having a network of runners who taught me the importance of consistency, teamwork and community, I would not even imagine running in the 2024 Trials.